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Old 09-19-2006, 03:57 PM
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Re: Chase System is the biggest joke in Sports!

So Moto .... if you are still tracking this thread you can understand the joy we get from the "Chase" !!!
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Old 09-19-2006, 04:58 PM
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Ah..it's a mess. They use the Harris Poll, Coaches Poll, and a computer ranking that is based on five different guys power ranking formulas, to determine who the ten best teams in country are...in order none the less. These ten teams then play in the biggest bowl games. Apparently, playing one another in a playoff wouldn't show who the best team was.
...with deuces, one-eyed jacks and kings wild, and if you get a four before you get a seven you're out but you don't have to tell anybody? Yeah, I've heard of that game... <sigh>
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Old 09-21-2006, 01:33 AM
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Re: Chase System is the biggest joke in Sports!

I'm not knowledgeable on Nascar but I'd like to know who exactly is the governing body of the sport that has the power to amend the Chase System. Is there a Nascar Commissioner or someone in a similar role?
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Old 09-21-2006, 08:13 AM
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I'm not knowledgeable on Nascar but I'd like to know who exactly is the governing body of the sport that has the power to amend the Chase System. Is there a Nascar Commissioner or someone in a similar role?
The governing body of NA$CAR is the France family. Like everything else today the sport has become all about money. The chase is our version of the playoffs but we do it while the regular season is still in play but we don't allow anyone access to the top 10 positions unless you are already there. Even if you would normally drop out of the top 10 you get to remain in the top 10.

Great .... now I'm all pi$$ed again !!!!!
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The governing body of NA$CAR is the France family. Like everything else today the sport has become all about money. The chase is our version of the playoffs but we do it while the regular season is still in play but we don't allow anyone access to the top 10 positions unless you are already there. Even if you would normally drop out of the top 10 you get to remain in the top 10.

Great .... now I'm all pi$$ed again !!!!!
I'm with you LSC! I second that!
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Old 09-21-2006, 07:40 PM
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Re: Chase System is the biggest joke in Sports!

Please don't compare the BCS to "The Chase". They have nothing alike except that fans want them gone. At least NASCAR lets the points system determine the chasers and not some wacky computer and opinions of "experts". First fix the point system and then fix the chase.
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Old 09-21-2006, 08:08 PM
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Please don't compare the BCS to "The Chase". They have nothing alike except that fans want them gone. At least NASCAR lets the points system determine the chasers and not some wacky computer and opinions of "experts". First fix the point system and then fix the chase.

Unfortunately for us and fortunately for the France family, we have no say in how the business is run. As long as they are making millions little will change .... but I'll be ready if they need any advice or help in fixing the system so it'll be fun to watch again. I'll bring my analyst Bob Tanner with me also !!!

Will you be ready if we get the call Bob ????
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Old 09-23-2006, 01:28 AM
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Unfortunately for us and fortunately for the France family, we have no say in how the business is run. As long as they are making millions little will change .... but I'll be ready if they need any advice or help in fixing the system so it'll be fun to watch again. I'll bring my analyst Bob Tanner with me also !!!

Will you be ready if we get the call Bob ????
Actually, I'll probably be busy sorting my collections of swizzle sticks, butterflies, and photos of outhouses I've taken in my trips around the country.

But Holy Lug Nuts, Batman, I appreciate the thought!
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Old 09-23-2006, 08:01 AM
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Actually, I'll probably be busy sorting my collections of swizzle sticks, butterflies, and photos of outhouses I've taken in my trips around the country.

But Holy Lug Nuts, Batman, I appreciate the thought!
Oh my God Bob !!!! I'll trade you my spare napkin from Cheers for a swizzle stick from there.
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:02 AM
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Re: Chase System is the biggest joke in Sports!

How come IRL and CART (Champ Car?) ain't laughing?

Here goes a semi-wideky held / discussed theory aroung the "Chase".

NASCAR has to increase geography involvement for their highest level of racing (NEXTEL Cup). It has become obvious that more races for the existing crews approaches the impossible / unreasonable.

"The Plan". Split the top level into divisions / leagues / whatever. Kinda like baseball. There's an American League Championship Series and a National League Championship series. Winners from the leagues face in the ultimate (World) series.

NASCAR gonna split. There will still be one NASCAR it will simply have East West, North South, who knows, but keep on the watch. Top ten from each league meets in the World series. It's simply business. Can only grow so much with the current structure. We all hear often that "NASCAR is investigating new venues", and there are new tracks in early planning stages in a number of new venues. Investors in these "new venues" ain't pouring millions just hoping ofr a NEXTEL date, they are getting indications from "above" that somethings brewing for them.

Some of the tricky stuff includes making sure each "league" plays on some common tracks so the World Series is not unfair to drivers from a particular geography. There are a lot of other "trickys" that one can imagine with just s wee bit of thinking. Car of tomorow (COT) plays to the "plan" also. Can't go off having the leagues using different equipment. This would really mess up the World Series.

Next five years (maybe less) are going to be real interesting. Real interesting.
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Old 09-25-2006, 02:23 PM
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The only good thing I can say about a concept such as that is that it would make the Chase a little more believeable. I'm not sure how well it would really work. In baseball the conferences and leagues themselves differ in abilities. I realize that NASCAR teams do also but who would decide what league/conference each team would be in? If I wanted to make sure I got in the chase each year I could chose the weakest league/conference. No matter what this will be an interesting idea to follow.
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Old 09-25-2006, 04:54 PM
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re: Choose the league to make chances more favorable

Yup. Another of the "trickys" that would need to be considered. Me-thinks "choosing" may not be left as an option.
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Yup. Another of the "trickys" that would need to be considered. Me-thinks "choosing" may not be left as an option.
post#25 food for thought.

I think you may be a forward thinker. If there is going to be growth, changes have to be made for it to be possible.
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Old 09-26-2006, 12:49 AM
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Re: Chase System is the biggest joke in Sports!

Once again: Whoever goes FASTEST the MOSTEST should win. Or is that POLITICALLY INCORRECT?
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:45 AM
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Once again: Whoever goes FASTEST the MOSTEST should win. Or is that POLITICALLY INCORRECT?
Forget "politically incorrect", this could make for some of the most entertaining television in the history of the planet.

Not the race, the fights afterward. We'd have the World Wrestling Federation on Wheels. It'd likely hit #1 in the ratings within no time. First time the winners circle included those famous words - "Yeah ya crossed the finish line dead last, however you were the FASTEST for the MOST(EST) laps over the course of the day. Here's your trophy. Hope ya get home alive with it."

The France family would be replaced by the dude that puts on all of the professional wrestling events.

Neat rumor opportunity here. The above is EXACTLY why Hulk Hogan was the grand marshal of Sundays race at Dover.

There would be absolutely no more compaints about the chase. No one could understand it, so no one could complain. If you chose to complain anyway, some gorilla would beat the stuffing out of you on national TV just prior to the next race. "Oh say can you see" - would have a whole new meaining for the poor soul who just got his/her beating.

This could work.
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