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Old 03-31-2008, 05:03 AM
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That's Hilarious, just shows that money and stupidity go hand in hand.

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Max Mosley Caught With his Pants Down???

Written by George Katinger · March 30, 2008

And on film no less? You can’t make this stuff up!

Max Mosley, the purveyor of moral rectitude in the world of motor sport has been allegedly caught on film patronizing an S&M sex party in
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Old 03-31-2008, 02:37 PM
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But this comes from News of The Wolrd ... aka the worst/most deceiving tabloid in the world. It would trust such a source if they'd say the Earth is round.
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An early April 1st joke maybe??
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An early April 1st joke maybe??
If it was an April Fool's joke, it's fooled a bunch of people.

From what they reported on two different SIRIUS NA__AR shows it went something like this (DOF might have picked up more details from the European press?): Mosley was supposedly filmed at a Nazi concentration camp-themed orgy, in the company of an undisclosed number of males and five female prostitutes.
These films were supposedly on a London Internet site as late as Monday a.m. but apparently have been removed.
I don't know if the guy is guilty or not but, in the face of the activities of some high-placed officials here in the US, nothing surprises me anymore. (If he is guilty and leaves the FIA he might possibly run for Governor of NY?)

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F1 teams call on the FIA to act

Thursday 3rd April 2008


BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Toyota issued statements on Thursday, calling for the FIA to take action against its President.

Following Sunday's sex scandal revelation concerning Max Mosley, the F1 teams have largely remained quiet, refusing to pass comment.

However, BMW and Mercedes-Benz were the first to break the silence, slamming Mosley's behaviour as "disgraceful." The two outfits also called for the FIA to take action.

"The content of the publications is disgraceful. As a company, we strongly distance ourselves from it," they said in a joint statement.

"This incident concerns Max Mosley both personally and as President of the FIA, the global umbrella organisation for motoring clubs. Its consequences therefore extend far beyond the motor sport industry."

They added: "We await a response from the relevant FIA bodies."

Toyota followed suit shortly after, issuing a statement of their own in which they condemned Mosley's actions and questioned whether he has the moral standing needed to lead the FIA.

"Toyota Motorsport does not approve of any behaviour which could be seen to damage Formula One's image, in particular any behaviour which could be understood to be racist or anti-Semitic," said the statement.

"Senior figures within any sport or business, including motorsport, must adhere to high standards of behaviour. When all the facts are known, it will be for the FIA to decide whether Mr Mosley has met the moral obligations which come with the position of FIA President."

Honda, as a team and not just a manufacturer, are demanding a swift resolution to the latest scandal to rock the sport.

"It is necessary that senior figures in sport and business maintain the highest standards of conduct in order to fulfil their duties with integrity and respect," they said in a statement.

"The Honda Racing F1 Team is extremely disappointed by recent events surrounding Mr Mosley and we are concerned that the reputation of Formula One and all its participants is being damaged.

"We request that the FIA gives this matter careful consideration and reaches an immediate decision in the best interests of F1 and motorsport."

Mosley, though, has already made it clear that he won't be stepping down from his role as FIA President.

"I will not allow any of this to impede my commitment to the FIA," he said in a letter sent earlier this week to all national FIA clubs and bodies.

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Re: Latest BIG FIA scandal.

Ya, the New York State Governor stuff is probably even funnier.

But, reading some other stuff on Mad Max, he pretty much concedes the fact that he's a regular at sex orgies, but denies that he dresses up like Hitler while performing his duties and following orders.

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Nah Mosley beats Spitzer by 5 to 1.
And a "I won't resign" attitude.
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Nah Mosley beats Spitzer by 5 to 1.
And a "I won't resign" attitude.
He's suing News of the World, from what I heard tonight. Not for libel but rather for invasion of privacy?! How's that for audacity?

Also found out his father, Sir Archibold Mosley, was head of the British Fascist Organization during WWII.

What many don't understand is how powerful the FIA is. It is the equivalent of the AAA here in the USA, with affiliated auto clubs all over the world. It is involved with many governments in auto safety laws, economy matters and just about anything having to do with personal transportation. Mosley has made F1 his priority but the FIA is far larger than just F1. The power and influence Mosley wields is beyond that of what Spitzer had.

This is a major scandal of world-wide proportions. Mosley was supposed to attend this week's F1 race in Bahrain but the Emir, King, Sultan, Grand Poobah, or whatever he is, informed Max that his presence would be "inappropriate."
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^ Bob that's true.
There have been such cases of sueing for libel british tabloids, so it's not common on the british side of the pond, as some american movie stars found out.

As for the FIA, it is the world's automobile federation, involved as you mentioned in many things, not just sanctionizing many of the world's motorsport series.
AAA was something small and national, the Spitzer case is downright provincial.
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ADAC tells Mosley to reconsider his role

By Jonathan Noble Friday, April 4th 2008, 08:45 GMT

The ADAC, Germany's national motoring body, has written to FIA president Max Mosley asking him to 'reconsider' his position in the wake of the controversy over his private life.

Mosley has called an extraordinary meeting of the FIA membership to discuss the fallout from the tabloid revelations that have dominated headlines in recent days. It is understood Mosley wants to hold the meeting to provide 'total clarity' on the situation for members of motor racing's governing body.

With car manufacturers BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Honda and Toyota having issued statements in Bahrain expressing their concern about the revelations made by the News of the World last weekend, now ADAC has also voiced its own worries about the impact of the affair.

In a statement issued by the organisation, it confirmed that it had written to Mosley asking him to consider his future, as it did not feel it appropriate he could continue in his role against the backdrop of the scandal.

The release said: "In a letter to FIA president Max Mosley, the ADAC has distanced itself from events surrounding his person. According to the ADAC, the role of an FIA president who represents more than 100 million motorists worldwide should not be burdened by such an affair. Therefore, we ask the president to 'very carefully reconsider his role within the organisation'.

"According to the ADAC, the appropriate FIA process has to take care of the matter. It is in the interests of this world organisation to carry on with its duties without the burden of this affair."

Mosley wrote to all FIA national bodies, including the ADAC, earlier this week to apologise for any embarrassment that the affair had caused. He made it clear, however, that he had no intention of stepping down from his position because of what had happened.

"I have received a very large number of messages of sympathy and support from those within the FIA and the motor sport and motoring communities generally, suggesting that my private life is not relevant to my work and that I should continue in my role," wrote Mosley in the letter.

"I am grateful and with your support I intend to follow this advice."
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^ Bob that's true.
There have been such cases of sueing for libel british tabloids, so it's not common on the british side of the pond, as some american movie stars found out.

As for the FIA, it is the world's automobile federation, involved as you mentioned in many things, not just sanctionizing many of the world's motorsport series.
AAA was something small and national, the Spitzer case is downright provincial.
Not to mention a different attitude toward the peccadillo's public officials get themselves into. Didn't a number of European politicos get named in a scandal involving a former Miss India? Didn't John Major recently get named as a dalliance with some British tart? Would the people have demanded Profumo's resignation from Parliament if Christine Keeler hadn't have been shagging a Russian spy while she was also doing Profumo?
I remember reading some European tabloid views of our former holder of America's highest office and his escapades in the Oral Office and why the American public's thongs were in such a wad.
When we lived in Spain I remember a much more lib... lib... - I have trouble even saying the word... - "open" view toward matters sexual. Somehow I doubt if RTL's Tutti-Fruti stripping game show would have lasted long over here on this side of the pond.
I AM NOT saying that Europe is a center for debauchery, mind you. I'm just pointing out that what Mosley did might be viewed slightly different there than here. But from the articles I'm seeing, a lot of folks aren't too happy with FIA uber grande capo
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ADAC tells Mosley to reconsider his role

By Jonathan Noble Friday, April 4th 2008, 08:45 GMT

The ADAC, Germany's national motoring body, has written to FIA president Max Mosley asking him to 'reconsider' his position in the wake of the controversy over his private life.
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"I have received a very large number of messages of sympathy and support from those within the FIA and the motor sport and motoring communities generally, suggesting that my private life is not relevant to my work and that I should continue in my role," wrote Mosley in the letter.

"I am grateful and with your support I intend to follow this advice."
What I read into this that, there is a view that character DOES matter when it comes to epople who hold an office which represents a large number of people and such leaders are being held to a higher standard.

I can't fault that concept. Way to go, ADAC! Glückwünsche!
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The sex scandal - and the subsequent fall out - is going from bad to worse for Max Mosley, as another national motoring club indicated its flagging support for the FIA President on Friday.

The Israeli car club (MEMSI) president, Yitzhak Milstein, said the details of the 67-year-old Briton's alleged Nazi death camp-themed romp with prostitutes had 'shocked' him.

"Once the whole thing is clarified - and there is a better idea on how true the story is - we will make our conclusions known.

"And they will certainly match the severity of the matter,"
he is quoted as saying by the BBC.


F1 Chief Executive Bernie Ecclestone, however - a long time associate and friend of Mosley's - confirmed on Friday that his support for the FIA President still stands.

"I'm happy with Max, I don't have any problems at all with Max," he said.
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Aha, the plot thickens:


Mosleygate gets murkier and murkier

Friday 4th April 2008


As if this 'episode' wasn't already damaging enough for F1, Max Mosley has reportedly blamed McLaren-Mercedes for a recent tabloid article relating to his alleged extra-curricular experiences, saying the team set him up.

Mosley has a tension-fraught history with the McLaren team, having slapped them with a £50million fine for last year's Stepneygate scandal in what some felt was his own personal vendetta against team boss Ron Dennis.

'Mosley has confided to friends he believes he may have been the victim of a plot by McLaren-Mercedes, who were fined £50million last year for 'spying' on Ferrari, to destroy his career,' reports the Daily Mail.

The newspaper went on to say that Mosley is determined to prove that he was set-up, which is why he has called an Extraordinary Meeting of the FIA.

However, it's not just Mosley who (allegedly) reckons he was set-up.

Bernie Ecclestone's immediate reaction after hearing the news was to say: "I find it difficult to believe. It's his business but it sounds to me like a set-up."

More telling is that BMW team boss Mario Theissen, who after five days to thinking about it, said on Friday that it did appear as if was entrapment.

"What shouldn't be neglected is it certainly looks like a trap," he said. "And that is something which in our view is not acceptable."
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