[simple simon]

Here is the 2008 Champ Car World Series Schedule

April 20: Long Beach, Long Beach, Calif.

April 27: Houston

May 18: Monterey, Calif.

June 1: Zolder, Belgium

June 8: Jerez, Spain

June 22: Cleveland

June 29: Mont-Tremblant, Quebec

July 6: Toronto

July 20: Edmonton, Alberta

July 27: Portland, Oregon

Aug. 10: Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin

Sept. 14: Assen, Holland

Oct. 26: Surfers Paradise, Australia

Nov. 9: Mexico City

[simple simon]

Here is the 2008 Champ Car Atlantic Championship Schedule

April 20: Long Beach, California

April 27: Houston

May 18: Monterey, Calif.

June 22: Cleveland

June 29: Mont-Tremblant, Quebec

July 6: Toronto

July 20: Edmonton, Alberta

July 27: Portland, Oregon (two races)

Aug. 10: Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin

Aug. 17: Trois-Rivières, Quebec

Sept. 21: Tooele, Utah

Nov. 9: Mexico City (non-championship event)

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by simple simon

Here is the 2008 Champ Car Atlantic Championship Schedule

April 20: Long Beach, California

April 27: Houston

May 18: Monterey, Calif.

June 22: Cleveland

June 29: Mont-Tremblant, Quebec

July 6: Toronto

July 20: Edmonton, Alberta

July 27: Portland, Oregon (two races)

Aug. 10: Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin

Aug. 17: Trois-Rivières, Quebec

Sept. 21: Tooele, Utah

Nov. 9: Mexico City (non-championship event)

i apologize to fans of the series, and maybe you can help me understand .. but this just seems stupid

none of these races are anywhere near the Atlantic .... and 3 of them are very close to the Pacific .... am i missing something ?

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by simple simon

i apologize to fans of the series, and maybe you can help me understand .. but this just seems stupid

none of these races are anywhere near the Atlantic .... and 3 of them are very close to the Pacific .... am i missing something ?

maybe this will help from Wikipedia:

The history of Formula Atlantic begins with the SCCA Formula B class, created in 1965 for single-seat formula cars with engines not exceeding 1600cc in capacity. Prior to Formula Atlantic, professional Formula B races were held in the United States from 1965 to 1972, firstly with the SCCA's poorly-supported Formula A, then as part of the SCCA Formula Continental Championship in 1968 (when they were largely overshadowed by the V8-powered Formula 5000 cars) and then as an independent series from 1969 to 1972.

Formula Atlantic as a class evolved in England in 1971 from the US Formula B rules, with 1600cc production-based twin-cam engines (initially Lotus-Ford twin-cams but then Cosworth BDA and BDD, however other engines like Alfa Romeo were also eligible). Conceived by John Webb of Brands Hatch (who would later also develop the Sports 2000 class) as a category for national competitors with the performance near a Formula Two car but running costs at or below that of a contemporary Formula Three car.

As a result, Formula Atlantic typically used chassis similar to Formula Two and Formula Three cars -- with performance somewhere in between the two -- so most of the manufacturers were familiar from those classes, particularly the likes of Brabham, Lotus, March, Chevron early on, with Ralt and then Reynard later. US manufacturer Swift came to displace the British imports and dominate in North America.

The Champ Car Atlantics series is often considered the top developmental open-wheel racing series in North America, also called a "ladder series." In 2005, a new factor was announced to solidify this reputation as the last series in which a driver will compete before moving to Champ Car, or the highest levels of sports car racing such as American Le Mans.

[Racer Duck]

Since Champ Car is no more, I'm unsticky-ing this thread so it will slowly slip into oblivion...

[WestCoast]

Or "delete it"