[Gotham Dark Knight]

Since we are obviously confused here as to what really is or is not a sport, we will be running some threads aimed at identifying what a sport is...lets start with the WWE vs the TV Show "So you think you can Dance?"...which is the real sport?

Is it the heavily scripted WWE Pro Wrestling...or is it the equally physically demanding but "NOT scripted" Dance show....and folks remember, Ball Room Dancing will now be an Olympic sport...pro wrestling...not.

Any takers to the game?

[Lefty Noob]

Does the winner of this round go on to face Building an Imaginary Internet Forum Headquarters for the championship? I'm just saying, we all stray from the mission statement here and there. At least these two are vaguely sports related. Former professional athletes have been involved with both activities, and both require people to be in excellent physical condition. They also both require intense training and concentration, much like sports like gymnastics. I declare this contest a 'push.'

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Does the winner of this round go on to face Building an Imaginary Internet Forum Headquarters for the championship? I'm just saying, we all stray from the mission statement here and there. At least these two are vaguely sports related. Former professional athletes have been involved with both activities, and both require people to be in excellent physical condition. They also both require intense training and concentration, much like sports like gymnastics. I declare this contest a 'push.'

A would give it a push if one wasn't scripted while the other just highly subjective...I think the edge is to dancing...

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

A would give it a push if one wasn't scripted while the other just highly subjective...I think the edge is to dancing...

Well, in terms of former athletes involved, dancing with the stars has had Emmitt Smith, Evander Holyfield, Lalia Ali and Jerry Rice. Wrestling has had Lawrence Taylor, Karl Malone, Dennis Rodman, Frank Wycheck and Steve McMichael. And how do we know Dancing with the Stars isn't scripted, hmm?

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Well, in terms of former athletes involved, dancing with the stars has had Emmitt Smith, Evander Holyfield, Lalia Ali and Jerry Rice. Wrestling has had Lawrence Taylor, Karl Malone, Dennis Rodman, Frank Wycheck and Steve McMichael. And how do we know Dancing with the Stars isn't scripted, hmm?

We don't...but they "claim" that the public votes...and it looks like the dance have the better athletes...you for got Apollo Ono this years winner...plus the thread really is about the current dance show...not Dancing with Celebrites etc...

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

We don't...but they "claim" that the public votes...and it looks like the dance have the better athletes...you for got Apollo Ono this years winner...plus the thread really is about the current dance show...not Dancing with Celebrites etc...

In all seriousness, Goth, I've been hooked on pro wrestling since I was a kid and thought it was real. I skipped a bit when it started getting too raunchy for my tastes, but I watch it again all the time. It's an art form, really.

In Ric Flair's book (great read, by the way), he describes a little about how it's done. There's no hard and fast script, but they have a basic start and a planned finish, and everything else in the middle is improv. One guy "calls" the match, meaning he gives instructions to his opponent. Look close and you can see them doing it during headlocks and whatnot. It's also fun watching and trying to see where and how they cut themselves to bleed, and how they work to fall right so they don't get seriously injured.

Like I said, it's an art form.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

In all seriousness, Goth, I've been hooked on pro wrestling since I was a kid and thought it was real. I skipped a bit when it started getting too raunchy for my tastes, but I watch it again all the time. It's an art form, really.

In Ric Flair's book (great read, by the way), he describes a little about how it's done. There's no hard and fast script, but they have a basic start and a planned finish, and everything else in the middle is improv. One guy "calls" the match, meaning he gives instructions to his opponent. Look close and you can see them doing it during headlocks and whatnot. It's also fun watching and trying to see where and how they cut themselves to bleed, and how they work to fall right so they don't get seriously injured.

Like I said, it's an art form.

Come on man, I grew up on it too...the Brisco brothers and their dumb Fireman Carry...Gordon Soley (Florida Wrestling) hidding under a desk when ever a Pier Sixer broke out...The figure four leg lock that Terry Funk laid on one of the Briscoes...Pipers Pit when Piper smashed Super Fly Jimmu Snuka with a coconut...Hulk Hugan ripped apart his lateral muscles when he lifted Andre the Giant...got me Hogans book at the $1 store...great reading...he got
his leg broke by the pros when he first tried out...

I am there with you, honest I am...just never took to this thread that's all...

I also loved, "In a television time remaing match"...what the heck was that?...

[LSC9901]

I think I'll jump into th emix here and add my 4.3 cents (Inflation) Wrestling and dancing with the _______ both fall under the heading of reality shows, better seen as scripted. Neither gets my vote unless you're shooting for sheer mindless entertainment ... then wrestling wins.

Now what is this deal with the imaginary headquarters ?????

I've taken my time for weeks now to travel about, with Ross's card, to locate acceptable sites. Has this been in vain ???

[Lefty Noob]

Speaking of sports-related reality shows, anyone here ever watch that celebrity auto-racing show? I haven't, but it looks interesting.

[LSC9901]

what channel ???

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

what channel ???

Um, er... ABC? I think? It had William Shatner in it, and WWE wrestler John Cena among others.

[LSC9901]

Guess I've never heard about that one. If you find out for sure when and where let me know.

[Bette]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Does the winner of this round go on to face Building an Imaginary Internet Forum Headquarters for the championship? I'm just saying, we all stray from the mission statement here and there. At least these two are vaguely sports related. Former professional athletes have been involved with both activities, and both require people to be in excellent physical condition. They also both require intense training and concentration, much like sports like gymnastics. I declare this contest a 'push.'

I think we stray a lot. We even manage to stray a bit in this thread too.
I think I knew pro wrestling was a fake when I was a kid, but I watched it. I still think it was better then. I dont like it now. But it seems to me that if someone if going to pick up a 7ft. 300 pound man like my husband was talking about, there has to be some degree of athleticism there. Pro Wrestling is popular, not only in this country, but others.
There's a lot of cleaning up to do in it. Benoit's situation is just scratching the surface. It's going to make football's badboys look like saints.
I love football, my husband loves wrestling. I tolerate his sport same as I wish him to tolerate mine. If someone wants to call his a sport, then I say let them. Each to his own. According to the forum rules, the "other sports" need to be legal. It doesnt really define sport otherwise. So if I want to talk about (what's that game Mooch plays?) , ping pong, horseshoes, or whatever, guess it meets the forum rules.

[vincesanity82]

roddy rod piper and jake the snake was where it was at..and the older undertaker where he would be pushed out in a coffin and slowly rise up..good stuff..of course legendary hulk hogan and andre the giant..

also do you think stripping is scripted? would it be considered a sport or more art form?

[Bette]

Originally Posted by vincesanity82

roddy rod piper and jake the snake was where it was at..and the older undertaker where he would be pushed out in a coffin and slowly rise up..good stuff..of course legendary hulk hogan and andre the giant..

also do you think stripping is scripted? would it be considered a sport or more art form?

Scripted

Definitely art form