[Basketball Jesus]

I apologize it was Bockhorn at Point gaurd and Jack Twyman at shooting Gaurd. But the point was that Robertson was playing small forward.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Basketball Jesus

So I took your advise and registered (and used you as my refferral ). I do believe I said that Kobe was the second best 2 Gaurd ever. The term "2 gaurd" applies to shooting gaurds. Oscar was a Swingman (played gaurd and forward), but did the majority of his damage from the small forward position like Baylor did. The year he averaged a triple double he started at forward with Bucky Bockhorn at shooting gaurd. In terms of pure shooting gaurds kobe's athleticism, skill sets, and abilities are only bested by Jordan's. If you ask me I believe kobe is a much better scorer than jordan is because of the range that he posseses (3 pointers primarily). I can understand why you would say that west was on the first team over kobe but how would they play against a team like the all-time Rockets. With Drexler and Mcgrady on the perimeter you would have big mismatches. I suppose if we are just saying that these guys were the best position players we had, compared only by what they have accomplished statistically you have a good argument, but I would have to go with Kobe edging West because of the 3 rings he posseses. I know Shaq helped but West was Drafted onto a team with Baylor and won Nothing. He also Needed the help of Both Wilt's 20 and 20 and goodrich's 27 points per. before he won anything.

Hey now, not bad my man...not a bad comeback at all...welcome aboard, and glad to see you registered...

I think paired with the 6'9" Magic, West would be a complimentary player and the duo could match up with anybody...And West with Baylor still played in an era dominated by the great Celtic teams, and Wilt poking his head once in a while for other teams...so you can't simply say West/Baylor did nothing...its like saying Stockton/Malone did nothing jsut becomes they came along at a time Jordan was bagging a bunch of rings...

By the same token Kobe without Shaq...well we have already seen how that plays out, so the three rings he has, has a lot to do with Shaq being around.

I still would be hard press to knock West out of the way for Kobe...and if shooting is all that is required, even Iverson would be in Kobe's world...I just don't see him as #2 overall...

And lets take away Oscar's triple double for the heck out it...Even without that, if you match the two striaght up and you made the GMs around the league take one or the other for the shooting guard spot, I doubt the Big-O would lose out...

But we can open that debate to the rest of the forum.

[Basketball Jesus]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Hey now, not bad my man...not a bad comeback at all...welcome aboard, and glad to see you registered...

I think paired with the 6'9" Magic, West would be a complimentary player and the duo could match up with anybody...And West with Baylor still played in an era dominated by the great Celtic teams, and Wilt poking his head once in a while for other teams...so you can't simply say West/Baylor did nothing...its like saying Stockton/Malone did nothing jsut becomes they came along at a time Jordan was bagging a bunch of rings...

By the same token Kobe without Shaq...well we have already seen how that plays out, so the three rings he has, has a lot to do with Shaq being around.

I still would be hard press to knock West out of the way for Kobe...and if shooting is all that is required, even Iverson would be in Kobe's world...I just don't see him as #2 overall...

And lets take away Oscar's triple double for the heck out it...Even without that, if you match the two striaght up and you made the GMs around the league take one or the other for the shooting guard spot, I doubt the Big-O would lose out...

But we can open that debate to the rest of the forum.

Fair enough and good show!! Compliments to your basketball insight. I am obviously not the only one who is educated in the sport. Look forward to our battles in the future!