[MJHMarc]

I agree, Legend, that Roger Clemens runs his own show.

I have heard many times that Roger Clemens is a spoiled star. I admit that he is possibly one of the pitchers to ever stand on the mound, but I think he over-uses his priviledges. You will know what I mean, if you ever saw the famous Arli$$ episode where Roger Clemens complains to his agent, Arliss Michaels, that he wants a private jet like Kevin Brown. Since Arliss refuses to get him a jet (but offers him a pony and a priest and I believe a contract extension in New York) he fires Arliss and leaves him in the dust. That is not really nice considering he wanted the jet immediately and didn't give Arliss enough time to arrange such a demand.

Do you have any comments about this episode or if Roger Clemens is spoiled?

[legend]

Roger Clemens is all about Roger Clemens, and that is the bottom line.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by legend

Roger Clemens is all about Roger Clemens, and that is the bottom line.

As is most of the world...

Heck if it was me, I would make sure that part of my contract called for my kid Cody to make the 40 man roster at year end...When you negotitate a deal, your first volley is to ask for the world...than agree to twenty million, a jet, five cows, 42 horses, a ranch in Wyoming, a lifetime supply of wheaties, your name on the Stadium, and for the team to change its name to the Houston Rockets...oops that would present a second problem.

Are sports stars greedy?...no...not really...they are just like the rest of us, only they have the leverage to get what they want...and we don't...that all...I doubt anyone on this site would turn down a Clemens like deal to hurl a ball...

When I hear that a sports star held a gun to an owner and threaten to blow his head off over a contract demand, than you would have a point...

But I have yet to hear you sling the mud at the owners who agree to every single demand...you jsut let them off the hook...are they not part of the equation?...or did Mr. Clemens get spoiled on his own?

[legend]

Of course the Astros are just trying to put people into the seats, trotting this 6 inning pitcher out there whenever he feels up to it.
Maybe I just feel bad for guys like Bagwell and Biggio, who represented that franchise in a model way for all these years, just to see a carpetbagger like Clemens come into town and take over. At least with his kid hitting .200, I won't have to worry about him anytime soon.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by legend

Of course the Astros are just trying to put people into the seats, trotting this 6 inning pitcher out there whenever he feels up to it.
Maybe I just feel bad for guys like Bagwell and Biggio, who represented that franchise in a model way for all these years, just to see a carpetbagger like Clemens come into town and take over. At least with his kid hitting .200, I won't have to worry about him anytime soon.

Again, if Bagwell and Biggio have a problem with it they can take it up with team ownership...

Legend, why can't you see that its not a one sided deal...you call Clemens a carpet bagger...but I have yet to hear you address the Astros ownership over the deal they gave him....not even in passing are you saying they are to blame...

like I said...Roger did not hold them hostage...and what does Cody have to do with Roger? Can't judge the kid by the old man...

[MJHMarc]

The Astros have gone through many changes over the past six years. They have altered the direction of their franchise away from how it used to be. I remember in the 2000s when they had the dominant athletes, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Moises Alou and Richard Hidalgo. By 2004, they already started to rely on Lance Berkman, Jeff Kent and Morgan Ensberg to lead the team. Nearly two years later, the team hasn't made any dramatic changes. But two years from now, I expect to see new people in Astros uniforms.

What do you think about their changes in the future of the Franchise?

[legend]

Because who here thinks this kid would be being looked at if his name wasn't Clemens, and his father didn't own the team?

[JackAigner]

Yeah, it's too much money, but Clemens is a huge deal in Houston and he almost pays for himself.

[MJHMarc]

I wish he would just pitch a few seasons for free as a kind gesture of giving back to his community.

$20+ M is a lot for a pitcher who didn't win the Cy Young Award.