[blueandwhite]

Final score between the USA and Finland was 3-2. Tortorella is mad because one goal that counted (and counted big in the end) appeared to have slipped under the mesh at the side of the net.
Canad plays Finland today -if canada wins, they will come in 1st in Group F and will have a much weaker opponent to worry about - Norway or Latvia - in the quarter final on Wednesday.
If Canada loses to Finland, they will finish 2nd and will face the USA. canada has beaten the US already but it was real close
Canada vs Finland is on at 330 on TSN. - Hey Jokinen was tossed from the game yesterday after a nasty hit from behind against Tim gleason and so will not be on the ice today. but they will have their top line of Koivu, Selanne and Ville peltonen.

[Seahawker 562]

I think Tortorella said it right in his interview. "The refs are a joke, let the teams play."

[blueandwhite]

They did fire the goal judge on that call - and you don't see that EVER in the NHL.

[Phils20]

I think they just keep it quiet if they do discipline refs. IN baseball they come right out in public if the fine one, but the other sports here can't comment due to thier unions.

I didn't see the play. Too bad they won't make them play an OT to decide that game. But I'm sure logistics make that impossible.

I think they actually made teams replay the very end of an NBA game once due to a bad call, the next time the teams met.

But I could be wrong!

[blueandwhite]

Yeah there is certain "Refs are Royalty" treatment in the NHL, I will agree to that. They are there own kingdom with their protective barrier, their "moat".
Once, ONCE I have seen a hockey player argue a call and the ref actually listened and decided the player was right.
It's like a morality play for all of us to watch: a call is made (bad or good) and the player reacts as if the ref is insane and the ref ignores him and the coach obviously disgrees. But the maddening part is, if it is a bad call and the player or the coach react TOO much, they will get another penalty or get kicked out of the game. It's like refs are little tiny kings.
I understand we have to respect them - there has to be a respect of the officiating - but in hockey, it's gone to their respective ref-heads.

[Phils20]

You will get no arguments from me!