[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by blueandwhite

hm, there's an interesting notion - Cleveland.

No thanks, I still see visions of the Cleveland Barons...and it's not pretty...

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The lighning has the 2nd highest attendance in the NHL. Check ESPN attendance NHL and enlighten yourself

Third, actually, but point taken. They're outdrawing Toronto, Ottawa and Calgary per game. Panthers are stuck down a 22nd, though.
ESPN.com - NHL - NHL Attendance

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Third, actually, but point taken. They're outdrawing Toronto, Ottawa and Calgary per game. Panthers are stuck down a 22nd, though.
ESPN.com - NHL - NHL Attendance

Doesn't mean O-town will...and they won a cup a few years back...they are still riding that wave...a town is a hockey town if it can support a team when they are not the darlings of the league.

[ilivesports]

San Diego should get the next team in the NHL hands down!!!!!!! There ECHL team drew 10,000 fans. They only have two Pro sports and the charges play out in Mission Valley

[MJHMarc]

Originally Posted by ilivesports

San Diego should get the next team in the NHL hands down!!!!!!! There ECHL team drew 10,000 fans. They only have two Pro sports and the charges play out in Mission Valley

Good point, they have a nice town by the water.

[drjnieto]

Originally Posted by MJHMarc

Good point, they have a nice town by the water.

Does San Diego have an arena, I know they had the Clippers for sometime, were did they play?

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by drjnieto

Does San Diego have an arena, I know they had the Clippers for sometime, were did they play?

see now...now you are playing the game correctly drjnieto...don't mind you playing...just play correctly...

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by drjnieto

Does San Diego have an arena, I know they had the Clippers for sometime, were did they play?

Not sure where the Clippers played, but the ECHL team played at the San Diego Sports Arena. It apparently can hold about 13,000 for hockey games, so to be an NHL quality venue, they'd probably need to find a way to add some more seats.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Not sure where the Clippers played, but the ECHL team played at the San Diego Sports Arena. It apparently can hold about 13,000 for hockey games, so to be an NHL quality venue, they'd probably need to find a way to add some more seats.

well Lefty i just looked up the #'s and for the 06-07 season 13,000 average attendance would put them ahead of the Blue, Blackhawks and Islanders so they wouldnt need to add many to be reasonable i dont think

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by simple simon

well Lefty i just looked up the #'s and for the 06-07 season 13,000 average attendance would put them ahead of the Blue, Blackhawks and Islanders so they wouldnt need to add many to be reasonable i dont think

Hmm, interesting. So maybe San Diego would work, should the NHL choose to expand. But the more I think about it, are they seriously considering expansion with so many teams in the red financially? I find that hard to believe.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Hmm, interesting. So maybe San Diego would work, should the NHL choose to expand. But the more I think about it, are they seriously considering expansion with so many teams in the red financially? I find that hard to believe.

i think in some ways the NHL has alot of the same problems as the NBA ...... they need the biggest makets to do well to succeed Boston and such markets are dragging it down by not being near the top ........ the smallest markets are just filler in my mind

[peg_city]

Some # for you if you don't think Canada can support another NHL team.

NHL Team Valuations - Forbes.com

NHL Revenue per team

1 Toronto Maple Leafs 332 18 52 119 41.5

2 New York Rangers 306 9 82 109 17.7

7 Montreal Canadiens 230 18 104 90 17.5

19 Edmonton Oilers 146 40 19 75 10.7

4 Dallas Stars 248 -4 81 89 10.0

9 Los Angeles Kings 205 6 96 82 7.1

8 Colorado Avalanche 219 -11 25 81 5.9

3 Detroit Red Wings 258 4 35 89 5.8

11 Tampa Bay Lightning 172 15 29 82 5.0

6 Boston Bruins 235 0 51 86 4.8

28 Pittsburgh Penguins 133 31 38 63 4.8

13 Minnesota Wild 163 0 79 71 4.7

17 Buffalo Sabres 149 45 34 70 4.6

30 Washington Capitals 127 10 54 63 4.6

14 Ottawa Senators 159 27 15 76 4.2

12 Chicago Blackhawks 168 -6 0 67 3.1

26 Calgary Flames 135 17 14 68 2.3

20 San Jose Sharks 145 -2 31 69 1.8

10 Vancouver Canucks 192 30 57 80 1.1

16 St Louis Blues 150 7 80 66 1.0

5 Philadelphia Flyers 246 -7 26 88 0.9

21 Carolina Hurricanes 144 44 63 72 0.5

15 Anaheim Ducks 157 45 0 75 -0.2

27 Nashville Predators 134 21 28 61 -1.1

23 Florida Panthers 142 18 35 65 -1.9

25 Columbus Blue Jackets 139 0 32 66 -4.0

29 Atlanta Thrashers 128 21 55 64 -5.4

22 Phoenix Coyotes 143 5 49 63 -6.0

18 New Jersey Devils 148 19 53 62 -6.7

24 New York Islanders 140 -12 71 56 -9.2

OLN/Comcast deal with NHL
TSN : NHL - Canada's Sports Leader
65-70 million a year

CBC deal with the NHL
Playback :: NHL deal crucial, says CBC sports boss
100 million a year

*This does not include TSN and Sportsnet (I complete guess on my end would that it would be similar to the TSN deal)

*While NBC does not pay the NHL to show games

*A team in Orlando like a Team in Tampa would probable create a fan base around 50 000 people and thats it. Branching out into Winnipeg or Quebec City with the Canadian dollar as it is now (around 92 cents to the american dollar) would benefit the NHL alot more. The interest in Winnipeg for example in the NHL has completly declined. Having a team in Manitoba with a population of 1 million or Quebec City (metro area around 700000) will benefit the NHL based on TV deals rather then forcing the southern population to watch something they don't care about. Although finding a canadian billionaire is another thing all together.

[peg_city]

I just read on 'the Score' ticker (tv station in Canada) that the NHL is in talked to bring an expansion team to Las Vegas (No joke).

[blueandwhite]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Third, actually, but point taken. They're outdrawing Toronto, Ottawa and Calgary per game. Panthers are stuck down a 22nd, though.
ESPN.com - NHL - NHL Attendance

Wow. i thought we were sold out every night.

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by blueandwhite

Wow. i thought we were sold out every night.

You are. It says you sell out 103% of available seating (standing room only, I guess). Tampa must just have a higher seating capacity.