1:joe montana', was the best to ever play the game at his position enough said

2:steve young', with montana teaching him how can any be better than him but montana

3:dan marino', now it was hard for me to not put dan at #2 but he never won a superbowl, yeah he may have all the stats but he could lead his team to the big game

4:brett farve', this guy is just tougher than any qb ever, in my eyes he has one of the strongest arms in the history of the game and he's pretty accurate this guy is just great nomore to be said

5:tom brady', in my opinion he has the potienal to be the best ever, yeah alot of people may dissagree with peyton in the game but tom won three superbowls with bumb wideouts the only wr he had that was ok was deion branch and he was just OK. peyton had weapons hs entire career and a great running game. now with no marvin, no dallas clark mannig's chocking. point blank brady is the modern day montana

I guess since we're doing 30 years, it automatically eliminates Unitas (mainly 50'-60's), Otto Graham(40's-50's) and Bart Starr (60's).

1) Joe Montana- Besides the 4 superbowls & 3 superbowl mvp's , he is the only quarterback up until Tom Brady recently to win a superbowl without a running game (1981-82 against Cincy). They did not have Roger Craig yet. Also he won his 1st 2 superbowls before he had Jerry Rice. Unlike Steve Young, Montana made Jerry Rice (wheras Rice made Young better). Not a single interception in the 4 bowls. But the real clincher-when he went to K.C. for 2 seasons and immediately brought better results to a less talented team-shutting up all the critics that said he was lucky to be blessed with a good team. And he gave Schottenheimer his last victory in the playoffs14 years ago taking them to the conference championships. Most accurate ever.

2) John Elway- Revolutionized the game with his running/scrambling ability. Single-handedly took his team to 3 SB's in the late-80's; once he finally got a running game and system, won 2 SB's ending the NFC's 13-yr winning streak and winning the superbowl MVP in his final game. No team has ever depended on one player the way the Broncos used to depend on Elway in the late 80's-early 90's. The greatest clutch player ever.

3) Brett Favre- On pace to become the all time leader in yardage and already is in TD's. 3 straight league MVP awards (unprecedented) and a superbowl ring. In his prime, he was an improved version of Elway in his arm strength and mobility capabilities but not as accurate. Reason he's not #1 or #2: The loss to Denver in his 2nd SB appearance lost him a few points..b/c his errors had a lot to do with that loss and they were an overwhelming favorite.

4) Peyton Manning- I think he just moved up past Marino this year b/c of his superbowl victory. Obviously unbelievable stats in just 10 seasons with 2 league MVP awards-probabaly the most intelligent QB to ever play the game the way he controls the offense and makes adjsutments in the middle of the play based on what the defense is doing.

5) Dan Marino- The inability to even get back to the superbowl after his 2nd season certainly keeps him from being a few ranks higher; even with the excuse that he didn't have the team-I saw most of those games and he was a part of the reason-some of the games they could have won, were favored or lost to teams who they'd beaten during the regular season. But his stats are certainly astronomical, quickest release ever, very accurate, stronger arm than Montana, in regular season games was one of the best clutch players ever.

NOTE: Beyond 30 yers, I would have put Unitas #3 and Graham #4 before Farve. As for others that deserve honorable mention: Tarkenton, Brady, Fouts, Staubach and Starr.

I think you have to include Dan Fouts - Chargers back in the 70's he threw for many games over 400 yards passing. If he had a defense to back them up, the Chargers would have 3 rings today.

Originally Posted by ThePundit

How would you rate the top 5 QB's in the last 30 years? I was too young to see Unitas or Namath play in their prime so I have to leave them off the list.

Okay, here it goes:

1) Dan Marino: If he had been on the 49ers, he would have won the same amount of Super Bowls as Joe Montana. Nobody I ever saw could throw the football like him. He was the best I've ever seen.

2) John Elway: Have you ever seen any QB come up so huge in the most pressurized situations? Until Terrell Davis, he never had any good receivers or RB's.

3) Joe Montana: A lot of people rate him as #1. Let's face it: The top few are splitting hairs. But Montana had much better weapons than Marino and Elway and played in a perfect offense suited to his talents.

4) Terry Bradshaw: At the beginning he had some rough years. He also played on a great team. But the bigger the game, the better he played. In those championship years he was phenominal. And he called his own plays to boot.

5) Brett Favre: Has had a rough couple of years because he tried to do too much. But in his prime, he was unreal. He had a quick release that whizzed through the air and landed right in the receivers' hands.

Who are your top 5?

I am 11 years old, but I think Joe Montana would have to be at the top. One reason of course would be his super bowl wins. No one goes to the super bowl and defeats john elway and the broncos 55-10 and no one goes and beats dan marino 38-16. he had the recievers and he had one of the best coaches of all time.

[Geechee843]

but staubach handed the ball to a guy named tony dorsett.

i'm not nearly old enough to talk about namath or unitas or bradshaw or any of those guys so i'll jus rank them outta the ones i've seen play. not ranking them by titles since titles are simply a result of a solid defense, solid o-line and the right coah meeting in the right place at the right time

john elway- no contest. his go-to guy was a tight end. THE DRIVE, 4th and 20 and still pulled it out. nuff said. not to mention an arm that would make brett favre jealous and teh legs of micheal vick. last of the throwbacks

speaking of favre- 2nd strongest arm i ever seen. he's the guy that every male thinks they are. when he retires i can see him playin ball on teh sandlot with all the little kids. who else can get away with multi-int games and people say " o well its just brett". seems like the type of huy who leaves the stadium waerin wranglers in a pickup truck with his dog in teh passenger seat

marino- i never seen a ball leave someone's hand quicker. never. ever. you gotta get a plane ticket for his passes. o yea every major passing title.

troy aikman- wat he lacked in arm strength (which wasnt much) he made up for with ridiculous accuracy. even the word ridiculous doesnt do is accuracy justice. i would be baffled every time i saw him throw a pick

peyton manning- selfmade genius. you gotta go back to terry bradshaw to find a qb that called his own plays and was successful at it. is 2nd or 3rd on the all time wins list and did it without a defense for about 97% of those games. havent seen this kinda accuracy since troy aikman and steve young. on pace to hold all of marino's (and now favre's) records WELL before he retires. on top of being on pace to hold every major passing title he is second to only steve young in career passer rating

steve young- talk about livin in the shadow of a legend. he could win by 30 points, go 23 of 26, put up 350 yards and 4 td's and people would still say "well joe woulda made this throw....yadda yadda blah blah". pioneered teh whole running qb thing. took quarterbacking more seriously than i have EVER seen anyone take it. ws able to deal with TO as a rookie and had enough self control to not knock TO's teeth out when he dropped nearly every pass that came his way in that wild card game against green bay, then had the guts to go to him for the game winner when it was like 4th and 8 or 4th and 12 , i forget was so long ago.

jim kelly- yea i know lost 4 superbowls in a row. o well. i doubt andre reed would be a hall of fame candidate without him

yall probably wonder why brady,montana and others arent on here. cuz i'm only going off physical talent. afterall, thats what gets them drafted right?

Best QB's of all time can be two very different lists depending on how you look at it. I think there are basically 3 different ways to come to a conclusion.

Satistically they rank this way:

1. Steve Young
2. Dan Marino
3. Peyton Manning
4. Kurt Warner
5. Dan Fouts

Now that list looks a little shaky...even in my opinion...but the stats don't lie. If you were to rank them solely on super bowl rings...they line up like this...

1. Joe Montana - 4
2. Terry Bradshaw - 4
3. Troy Aikman - 3
4. Tom Brady - 3
5. John Elway - 2

That looks a little more like what we are used to seeing...but still not accurate in my estimation. The next way to compile the list is by looking at what weapons a QB had around him (to make him look better than he actually was). These are the QB's who were underrated in my estimation and would have been much better if given better weapons.

1. Dan Marino
2. Fran Tarkenton
3. Jim Kelly
4. Warren Moon
5. Archie Manning

But that obviously doesn't mean they ARE the best...just that they could have been. The only real way to compile a personal list of BEST QB's ever is to imagine "who would you want on your team when all was on the line." The best QB ever is the one who, with or without the players around him, can lift a team to greatness alone.

1. John Elway
2. Joe Montana
3. Brett Favre
4. Dan Marino
5. Tom Brady

And this is all forgetting about some of the greats of the past before the NFL...like Sammy Baugh, Otto Graham & Len Dawson. And I am not forgetting about people like Bart Starr & Johnny Unitas...I just don't think they make the cut.

1) Rex Grossman
2) Michael Vick
3) Joey Harrington
4) Aaron Brooks
5) Rich Gannon

[quote=ThePundit;2531]How would you rate the top 5 QB's in the last 30 years? I was too young to see Unitas or Namath play in their prime so I have to leave them off the list.

Okay, here it goes:

1) tom brady

2)tom brady

3)tom brady

4)tom brady

5)tom brady

[Vendetta1239]

I dont care if you guys disagree or hate on my choices but this is how im going to put it:

1) Joe Montana - He may have had people like Jerry Rice around but he was a leader on and off the field, he lead his team to 4 superbowls! and with his leadership won them all, he was mvp 3 different times, enough said.

2) Steve Young - He learned all of his tricks and ideas from Joe Montana, who better to learn from than one of the best quarterbacks ever?

3) Brett Favre - He has lead the packers to multiple superbowls and he has always had great seasons with the packers, good or bad team, hes had a good season.

4) John Elway - Proof is in the pudding.

5) Split between a ton of guys.

[Dusty]

1. Dan Marino
2. Tom Brady
3. Joe Montana
4. Peyton Manning
5. John Elway

Based on a combination of factors including surrounding talent, physical ability at the position, stats and championships.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Vendetta1239

I dont care if you guys disagree or hate on my choices but this is how im going to put it:

1) Joe Montana - He may have had people like Jerry Rice around but he was a leader on and off the field, he lead his team to 4 superbowls! and with his leadership won them all, he was mvp 3 different times, enough said.

2) Steve Young - He learned all of his tricks and ideas from Joe Montana, who better to learn from than one of the best quarterbacks ever?

I think these two guys are among the best as well and you can't argue with their success too but consider this one point Vendetta, name one quarterback who couldn't hack it in the Bill Walsh system. I mean Steve Bono was a finalist for MVP one year!! Bill Walsh had the greatest offensive mind in the history of the game and IMO is the greatest coach of all times. Now John Elway who had Dan Reeves as his coach didn't have that benefit nor did Marino with Shula. Food for thought.

[Ashizzle_77]

1. Joe Montana
2. Brett Favre
3. John Elway
4. Terry Bradshaw
5. Dan Marino

[King_Jamason]

1) Dan Marino: If he had been on the 49ers, he would have won the same amount of Super Bowls as Joe Montana. Nobody I ever saw could throw the football like him. He was the best I've ever seen.

2) John Elway: Have you ever seen any QB come up so huge in the most pressurized situations? Until Terrell Davis, he never had any good receivers or RB's.

3) Joe Montana: A lot of people rate him as #1. Let's face it: The top few are splitting hairs. But Montana had much better weapons than Marino and Elway and played in a perfect offense suited to his talents.

4) Terry Bradshaw: At the beginning he had some rough years. He also played on a great team. But the bigger the game, the better he played. In those championship years he was phenominal. And he called his own plays to boot.

5) Brett Favre: Has had a rough couple of years because he tried to do too much. But in his prime, he was unreal. He had a quick release that whizzed through the air and landed right in the receivers' hands.

Who are your top 5?[/quote]

1. Peyton Manning Going
2. Joe Montana
3. Tom Brady
4. John Elway
5. terry bradshaw

Why do we play the game. O ya for stats. Thats right. And for people to say gosh he has a lot of heart. Oh oh no I got it, he was great but his team wasn't thats right.

So lets stop the Dan pity party. This game is about winning. Not just any game. But THE GAME. And if you didn't win THE GAME your not going to be counted as the one of the best.

Yes I would put Dan the man in my top 10 list. Hell even number 6. But he isn't in the winner circle. Because he hasn't won THE GAME.

Tell'm John E.

I would definately say Joe Montana, Dan Marino, John Elway, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady.

Why isn't anyone mentioning Manning?