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Old 08-22-2006, 04:43 PM
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Old 08-22-2006, 05:35 PM
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You sure do think highly of Larry Fitzgerald and Santana Moss. Fitzgerald is on his way to becoming one of the best WRs in the league, but not their just yet. With TO, I wouldn't put him #1, but certainly in the top 3. Steve Smith showed last year he's one of the more dominant guys.

Why is Harrison so low?
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Moss was lights out for me last year, Empire, though there are questions about the QB situation in Washington right now. And Portis being out won't help either, because if the Skins can't establish a running game, teams will be able to sit back in coverage and shut down the aerial assault. So as good as Moss was for me in 2005, I'm not sure I'd want him this year, ya know?
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Old 08-24-2006, 09:30 AM
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You sure do think highly of Larry Fitzgerald and Santana Moss. Fitzgerald is on his way to becoming one of the best WRs in the league, but not their just yet. With TO, I wouldn't put him #1, but certainly in the top 3. Steve Smith showed last year he's one of the more dominant guys.

Why is Harrison so low?
Fitzgerlad is already one of the best receivers in the league. He was first in the NFL in receptions (103 catches), 4th in yards (1,403) and 5th in touchdowns (10). If that's not a top receiver, nobody is. And he's only 22 years old and it was just his second season. You have to think that he's going to get better. Plus he's on a team that stinks and has to throw a lot. If the offensive line plays better and is able to keep Warner off his back, those numbers should improve.

Santana Moss had 84 catches/1,483 yards/9 touchdowns last season. Those are numbers are worthy of a high fantasy ranking.

Lefty, it wasn't really an aerial assault. The Redskins ran a short passing game predicated on yards-after-catch. They threw Moss a lot of screens or quick hitches. People remember him most for torching the Cowboys downfield, but that wasn't a frequent occurence. What he did more often was take a short pass and dance for extra yards. Like I said on the blog, 616 of his yards came after the catch. Defenses dropping back shouldn't affect that too much. And it's not as if the running game will surely stink. Betts and Duckett are capable and it's been proven that the running game is more dependent on the offensive line than the running back himself. A good line can make a good back great and a decent one good. The Skins have two good ones and with their blocking, it'll be good enough if Portis has to miss a couple games.

I don't get why there are questions about QB in Washington. Brunell is coming off a good season. There's questions about the future because Jason Campbell hasn't played nor has he shown much, but for now, Brunell is the man.

Steve Smith is #2 because of the addition of Keyshawn, the emergence of Drew Carter, Keary Colbert not being expected to suck as much, and the running game being improved with a healthy DeShaun Foster and DeAngelo Williams. Last year, over 40-percent of Delhomme's completions went to Smith. With more capable options, he won't have to force feed him the ball as much. On third down, he'll be looking to Keyshawn quite a bit and with his 6'4" frame, No. 19 is gonna be a target in the red zone, too. That'll take away from Smith's numbers some. I still expect a great season, but they won't go to him as often.

Harrison is low (it's not really that low considering there's hundreds of receivers in the league and I have Marvin at No. 6) because his stats have been on decline the last 3 years. With Reggie Wayne, Brandon Stokley and Dallas Clark stepping up and being reliable, Peyton doesn't have to throw to Marvin as much. It's the same situation with Smith. Not that he's worse, but his teammates have gotten better so the ball is spread around more. Because of that, the last couple years he's been an 1,100-yard receiver. The guys I have ahead of him are all projected to get more than that. What boosts his stock is the fact that Peyton looks for him in the red zone and he catches 10+ touchdowns every year.
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Fitzgerlad is already one of the best receivers in the league. He was first in the NFL in receptions (103 catches), 4th in yards (1,403) and 5th in touchdowns (10). If that's not a top receiver, nobody is. And he's only 22 years old and it was just his second season. You have to think that he's going to get better. Plus he's on a team that stinks and has to throw a lot. If the offensive line plays better and is able to keep Warner off his back, those numbers should improve.

Santana Moss had 84 catches/1,483 yards/9 touchdowns last season. Those are numbers are worthy of a high fantasy ranking.

Lefty, it wasn't really an aerial assault. The Redskins ran a short passing game predicated on yards-after-catch. They threw Moss a lot of screens or quick hitches. People remember him most for torching the Cowboys downfield, but that wasn't a frequent occurence. What he did more often was take a short pass and dance for extra yards. Like I said on the blog, 616 of his yards came after the catch. Defenses dropping back shouldn't affect that too much. And it's not as if the running game will surely stink. Betts and Duckett are capable and it's been proven that the running game is more dependent on the offensive line than the running back himself. A good line can make a good back great and a decent one good. The Skins have two good ones and with their blocking, it'll be good enough if Portis has to miss a couple games.

I don't get why there are questions about QB in Washington. Brunell is coming off a good season. There's questions about the future because Jason Campbell hasn't played nor has he shown much, but for now, Brunell is the man.

Steve Smith is #2 because of the addition of Keyshawn, the emergence of Drew Carter, Keary Colbert not being expected to suck as much, and the running game being improved with a healthy DeShaun Foster and DeAngelo Williams. Last year, over 40-percent of Delhomme's completions went to Smith. With more capable options, he won't have to force feed him the ball as much. On third down, he'll be looking to Keyshawn quite a bit and with his 6'4" frame, No. 19 is gonna be a target in the red zone, too. That'll take away from Smith's numbers some. I still expect a great season, but they won't go to him as often.

Harrison is low (it's not really that low considering there's hundreds of receivers in the league and I have Marvin at No. 6) because his stats have been on decline the last 3 years. With Reggie Wayne, Brandon Stokley and Dallas Clark stepping up and being reliable, Peyton doesn't have to throw to Marvin as much. It's the same situation with Smith. Not that he's worse, but his teammates have gotten better so the ball is spread around more. Because of that, the last couple years he's been an 1,100-yard receiver. The guys I have ahead of him are all projected to get more than that. What boosts his stock is the fact that Peyton looks for him in the red zone and he catches 10+ touchdowns every year.

Some of your points are well defended, but this is not an exact science and you part of it is gut feel...but there is little difference in a top 10 list...most of these guys will grab you 80 catches and go 1,000-1,200 yards...

With Moss (who I had last year)...he had a career year, and the Redskins don't have a proven QB right now...I don't think he is good for another 1,400 yards....1,100 tops.

Fitzgerald I like....and even at a 20% reduction (which won't happen) you got an 80 catch 1,200 yard monster...whose stock is rising.

And Wayne (which I drafted this year) should really eat into Marv's numbers.
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I've gotta disagree. I'm a Giants fan so I saw Brunell hack up my team a couple times. He had 23 TDs and 10 INTs last season. Most teams would beg for that from their QB. Plus, he played well in the playoffs against Seattle in his last meaningful game. And he's had a good career. He's definitely proven. Just because he's 35 doesn't mean he can't do it. Favre threw for over 4,000 yards and 30 touchdowns at 35 in 2004. Trent Green is 36. Brad Johnson turns 38 next month. Kurt Warner is 35. It's not a position that requires much mobility and even there, Brunell's still more mobile than most quarterbacks.
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Old 08-24-2006, 11:18 AM
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I gotta agree NewGuy. Especially with the 'Skins, they don't need a spectacular QB to have a productive offense. Brunell did a fine job last year and at times looked great.
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