[Gotham Dark Knight]

No suprise from the experts, its Peyton number 1 across the board. The guy is a lock for 4,000 yards and +25 TDs year in and out. I have had him on my fantasy team since 1998.

I think Aaron Brooks at 17 is a steal. Kurt Warner at 11?...only because of his recievers and now James...but that is iffy at best.

Yahoo! Sports - Fantasy - Experts Poll: Quarterbacks

[Lefty Noob]

Well, I'm not getting sucked into the whole Aaron Brooks debate again. I like Manning and Brady 1 & 2; for quasi-sleepers, definitely Jake Delhomme and Drew Bledsoe with their added weapons on offense, plus the Cardinals QB (Warner for now) because of the offensive firepower and the fact that they'll likely need to score a lot of points to stay in games with their defense.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Well, I'm not getting sucked into the whole Aaron Brooks debate again. I like Manning and Brady 1 & 2; for quasi-sleepers, definitely Jake Delhomme and Drew Bledsoe with their added weapons on offense, plus the Cardinals QB (Warner for now) because of the offensive firepower and the fact that they'll likely need to score a lot of points to stay in games with their defense.

Debate?...All we are saying is...Aaron Brooks that low is worth a gamble...

[rmjvol]

What do you guys think about these quarterback ratings?

Peyton is the top pick, of course, but Matt Hasselbeck #2 and Carson Palmer #3? Carson's rehab seems to be coming along pretty well but I'm not convinced that he'll be back to 100% anytime soon.

[cjg11582]

No Jake Plummer? That's surprising after the season he had last year and with the addition of Javon Walker. I don't know about Steve McNair sneaking into that 10 slot, that potential draft pick reminds me of Kerry Collins last season with Oakland, a really high ceiling and an even lower basement.
The Patriots better get Deon Branch back into camp or Brady's stock is going to plummet.

[ThePundit]

Matt Hassleback #2 is silly. Seattle runs in all their TD's. Think about it. who are these "experts?" They're people like us who have a web site so do your research but make your own judgments.

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by cjg11582

No Jake Plummer? That's surprising after the season he had last year and with the addition of Javon Walker.

But will he be the Broncos QB, or will it be Cutler? There's been a lot of speculation...

[TheNewGuy]

What do you guys think about these quarterback ratings?
Peyton is the top pick, of course, but Matt Hasselbeck #2 and Carson Palmer #3? Carson's rehab seems to be coming along pretty well but I'm not convinced that he'll be back to 100% anytime soon.

Thanks for replying, but how'd you find my blog?

The reason I went with Hasselbeck so high is because he's coming off a strong season, he's got more weapons and they're facing a bunch of weak pass defenses this year. That might mean that he lights them up early and Alexander pounds it in the 4th quarter, but I see him putting up big numbers. He's in an almost ideal situation. He's also a safe pick.

Palmer, he was never mobile so I don't think the injury affects him as much as Culpepper's will him. If he's able to have that balance in his drop-back and his stride, deliver the ball and deal with the soreness, I think he'll be OK. And so far so good with that. If not for the fact that he hasn't proven he's 100% yet, I'd have him #2.

No Jake Plummer? That's surprising after the season he had last year and with the addition of Javon Walker. I don't know about Steve McNair sneaking into that 10 slot, that potential draft pick reminds me of Kerry Collins last season with Oakland, a really high ceiling and an even lower basement.

If I did a top 15, he'd probably be in there. I like him, but he's not a sure bet. It's possible that he could regress and have a "Jake Plummer" season. I doubt that, but it could happen. Also, Shanahan doesn't trust him completely and limits the playbook, thus limitting the effect that he can have on games. He likes to run the ball a lot and keep him in "No Mistake Jake" mode. That means a lot of safe throws, underneath routes, rollouts and dumpoffs. If he's to put up big totals, it'll be at the expense of his TD:INT ratio (as it did in 2004) and the coaching staff doesn't want that. He had probably his best season last year and threw for 3,300 yards and 18 TDs. That's good enough to win in the NFL, but not enough for a No. 1 QB on your fantasy roster.

McNair is a gamble, but one that could really pay off. I think it's different from Kerry Collins because (1) McNair is a better quarterback. Collins has had 1 good season and one good 1/2 season in his career and has always been someone that you couldn't rely on. Very mistake-prone. (2) With the Ravens, McNair has more weapons and a personell better suited to his style than Collins had in Oakland. The only match the Raiders had with Collins' style was "strong arm + Moss/Porter." But how often are deep balls completed? You need other components in the offense. The offensive line was bad, he didn't have a reliable underneath receiver, the running game was ineffective after a while, and he didn't have a receiving tight end. McNair will have his boy Derrick Mason, whom he already has a great rapport with, Michael Clayton who has great speed and runs good routes (I think he's poised for a big 2nd season), Tood Heap, who's a rich man's Frank Wycheck, Jamal Lewis (a year removed from prison and in good shape) and Mike Anderson. If he can stay healthy (for him, that's making 14 starts), I expect good numbers.

Matt Hassleback #2 is silly. Seattle runs in all their TD's. Think about it. who are these "experts?" They're people like us who have a web site so do your research but make your own judgments.

They couldn't have run for "all their TDs" since Hasselbeck threw for 24. Also, in the last 3 meaninful regular season games (the starters rested against the Packers), Hasselbeck threw 9 touchdowns. He finished strong and like I said earlier in this post, he's set up to have a big 2006. But that's what message boards are for. Different opinions.
And you're right about making your own judgement. I disagree with fans and expets a lot, too. It doesn't bother me that another fan disagrees with me.

But will he be the Broncos QB, or will it be Cutler? There's been a lot of speculation...

It'll be Plummer. Although I think they might've taken a step back by not taking a step forward (they didn't address some weaknesses in the off-season), the Broncos are still capable of being an elite team. A 12-4 or 11-5 type of team. They're not going to throw that away just to have a rookie QB start. Barring injury, I think the only way Cutler starts is if Plummer falls on his face, the team stinks and they've got no shot at the playoffs down the stretch.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Actually I have seen a few Fantasy Draft Magazine rank Hasselbeck as high as number 2 also. I personally would move Brady into that slot despite the lack of quality receivers he has...he has been very consitent. Palmer without injury is a clear #2...bouncing back from injury, I would still have him in the top 5.

[rmjvol]

Welcome to GoTeamsGo, TheNewGuy.

Not sure how I found your blog, but I've been looking around alot of blogs lately for good discussion and yours stood out. Thanks for joining us here. Hope you'll chat with us on a regular basis.

[TheNewGuy]

Originally Posted by rmjvol

Welcome to GoTeamsGo, TheNewGuy.

Not sure how I found your blog, but I've been looking around alot of blogs lately for good discussion and yours stood out. Thanks for joining us here. Hope you'll chat with us on a regular basis.

The reason I asked is because I started it recently and didn't think that it would be out there. I was wondering how to advertise it. Didn't expect any readers yet. But thanks.

For my curiousity, what was it that stood out? How I ranked them?

Actually I have seen a few Fantasy Draft Magazine rank Hasselbeck as high as number 2 also.

Is there reasoning similar to mine?

The reason I wouldn't put Brady that high is because that offense hasn't improved and really, not much has changed (short of Givens being gone and Branch holding out). I expect Brady to do similar numbers. The guys I'd put ahead of him are already good players with a chance to have huge seasons.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by TheNewGuy

The reason I asked is because I started it recently and didn't think that it would be out there. I was wondering how to advertise it. Didn't expect any readers yet. But thanks.

For my curiousity, what was it that stood out? How I ranked them?



Is there reasoning similar to mine?

The reason I wouldn't put Brady that high is because that offense hasn't improved and really, not much has changed (short of Givens being gone and Branch holding out). I expect Brady to do similar numbers. The guys I'd put ahead of him are already good players with a chance to have huge seasons.

Yes, the reasons on Hasselbeck are similiar...they say he has the weapons and was finally consistent.

As for Brady, the Patriots have always been about the team not the individual...I don't see his numbers dropping too sharply...I look for their TEs to have better numbers with the shortage at receiver.

[TheNewGuy]

But you can't do it without talent. It's always been about the team, but that's because they have a talented, well-coached team. With less talent, experience and chemistry at certain spots (even last season in the playoffs is an example) and they're not as good. And the team could still win, but with guys stepping up in other departments to compensate. With fantasy football, it's all about the individual. Looking at the situation, Brady's stats don't have much upside because the offense will either be same ol' - if the TEs step up and guys like Jackson, Troy Brown and Caldwell do well - and it's got the potential to be less than last season. It's possible, probably likely that he'll go for 3,600 yards and 25 TDs. The guys I have in front of him, I think they're in position to do bigger numbers.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by TheNewGuy

But you can't do it without talent. It's always been about the team, but that's because they have a talented, well-coached team. With less talent, experience and chemistry at certain spots (even last season in the playoffs is an example) and they're not as good. And the team could still win, but with guys stepping up in other departments to compensate. With fantasy football, it's all about the individual. Looking at the situation, Brady's stats don't have much upside because the offense will either be same ol' - if the TEs step up and guys like Jackson, Troy Brown and Caldwell do well - and it's got the potential to be less than last season. It's possible, probably likely that he'll go for 3,600 yards and 25 TDs. The guys I have in front of him, I think they're in position to do bigger numbers.

I hear you...but to me Tim Hasselbeck is not consistent...Alexander chews up too many TDs on the ground, and Brady is always good for +3,500 and 25 TDs...Since I do not think Tim is going to chuk +30 TDs, I like the less risky Brady...Having said that, I like to see how the receivers do this pre-season.

[TheNewGuy]

Man, I'd be surprised if Tim Hasselbeck throws 3 touchdowns. You meant Matt. I think he's consistent. He's been good the last 3 1/2 seasons. He started getting it going in the second half of 2002 and had 15 touchdowns in 10 starts and he's been good since. And until last year, he put up good numbers with guys constantly dropping passes. He's in a great system with a dink & dunk West Coast Offense, a great offensive line, talented receivers, and a running game that demands 8-9 in the box and gets him single coverage. And Holmgren is a great offensive mind. And he finished the season red hot with 9 TDs in 3 games. And they added Nate Burleson to an already good offense and Stevens is expected to step up. Also,

Last season St. Louis finished 23rd in pass defense and San Francisco 32nd. And those teams ranked 30th and 31st in touchdowns allowed, respectively, giving up a combined 54 scores via the pass. He should also be able to pad his stats against the Lions, Giants, Chiefs, Raiders, Packers, Broncos (29th in passing yards allowed) and Chargers (28th in yards allowed and their 10 interceptions ranked 27th in the NFL).

That's 11 games against some of the worst pass defenses in the NFL. I think he's got a good chance to throw for 3,600 yards and 28-32 touchdowns. I think it's very possible that he can average two TDs per game. He might do it quietly because Alexander will get a lot of goal line carries, but I think the totals will be there.