[ThePundit]

Bronson Arroyo - Reds. Look at what pitchers who go from the AL to the NL do. And he had pretty decent numbers as it was.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by ThePundit

Bronson Arroyo - Reds. Look at what pitchers who go from the AL to the NL do. And he had pretty decent numbers as it was.

Pundit you are down for Arroyo...now to make it offical...kindly predict the numbers man...what are we looking at here...12-9 pitcher?...14-11 with a 3.98 ERA....come on now...go out on the limb my good man

[ThePundit]

Arroy's numbers 16-9, 3.5 ERA..1.19 WHIP, 150 K's....How's that?

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by ThePundit

Arroy's numbers 16-9, 3.5 ERA..1.19 WHIP, 150 K's....How's that?

You are on the board Pundit...Lets see if you collect the prize by season's end for "Best Fantasy Prediction of the Season"...good luck

[ThePundit]

Okay, I put my money where my mouth was.

Although my partner drafted because I couldn't make it - he had strict instructions to grab Arroyo and he did in the 8th round (20 team league).

He also followed my advice to draft a 2nd baseman and catcher early. With the 15th pick he took Chase Utley on Philly with our 2nd pick - Chris Carpenter. With our 4th pick we got Victor Martinez...

With the 3rd pick he got DelGado. He went against my theory of grabbing a 1st baseman later on. But to be fair, with 20 teams who knows what was left? I was never in a draft with that many teams so I'll give him a pass.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by ThePundit

Okay, I put my money where my mouth was.

Although my partner drafted because I couldn't make it - he had strict instructions to grab Arroyo and he did in the 8th round (20 team league).

He also followed my advice to draft a 2nd baseman and catcher early. With the 15th pick he took Chase Utley on Philly with our 2nd pick - Chris Carpenter. With our 4th pick we got Victor Martinez...

With the 3rd pick he got DelGado. He went against my theory of grabbing a 1st baseman later on. But to be fair, with 20 teams who knows what was left? I was never in a draft with that many teams so I'll give him a pass.

Not a bad bit of drafting in a "20 Team league"...wow 20 teams...can't get much of the waiver wire with that...you are going to have to trade during the season...

[Lefty Noob]

Forgive me if I've missed something, but I haven't seen anyone mention SP Ervin Santana, Los Angeles Angels as a fantasy sleeper. Last season, he was 12-8 with a 4.65 ERA and 99 Ks in 23 starts, and most experts believe he has a tremendous upside.

According to Brandon Funson of Yahoo! Sports, Santana is "a sleeping giant... only Roy Halladay and Jorge Sosa won as many games in fewer starts. And he showed improvement as the year progressed, as his ERA dropped below 4 (3.97) in the second half after sitting at 6.20 in eight starts before the break. He has K-per-inning stuff and can be a big winner on a World Series contender like the Angels."

Definitely worth a gamble, don't you think?

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Forgive me if I've missed something, but I haven't seen anyone mention SP Ervin Santana, Los Angeles Angels as a fantasy sleeper. Last season, he was 12-8 with a 4.65 ERA and 99 Ks in 23 starts, and most experts believe he has a tremendous upside.

According to Brandon Funson of Yahoo! Sports, Santana is "a sleeping giant... only Roy Halladay and Jorge Sosa won as many games in fewer starts. And he showed improvement as the year progressed, as his ERA dropped below 4 (3.97) in the second half after sitting at 6.20 in eight starts before the break. He has K-per-inning stuff and can be a big winner on a World Series contender like the Angels."

Definitely worth a gamble, don't you think?

Lefty you are in the Pool buddy...lets see if your pick can make it from the shallow end to the deep end without drowning...good pick!

[cjg11582]

This is an interesting forum because I have wondered about fantasy baseball drafting. This was my first year of participating in fantasy sports, I did basketball and football. Much to the chagrin of the mojority of people around me, I preferred basketball. Simply for more statistics and it wasn't weighted so heavily on one category (like TD's are in football).
But fantasy baseball seems like it would be a mess. There are so many productive players that come out of the woodwork every season that the draft would be heavily marginalized. And the person quickest to the free agent board (The friend in the group without a job) would really capitalize on most of the undiscovered talent.
So am I wrong about this? Are people drafting for fantasy baseball aware players that seemingly come out of nowhere? And who is the Mike Vick of fantasy baseball? Does such a person even exist in baseball?

[Lefty Noob]

And who is the Mike Vick of fantasy baseball?

Well, if you mean can't fail kind of guys, I'd say Pujols and A-Rod are the two closest. Vlad Guererro is pretty solid, too. But Vick killed me in 2005. He gave me several negative scores in my league last season. If that's what you're looking for, I'm afraid I don't know any big names that would consistantly lose you points, sorry.

[cjg11582]

The Mike Vick of fantasy baseball would be someone with all the potential in the world that has underperformed on an individual level, yet while half the country thinks he is a bust, the other half thinks he is a phenom and as a result they end up drafting way too early. Maybe I should have explained this when I posed the question.

[EmpireWF]

Let me just say that Jose Vidro has been outstanding early in the season. I was able to take him as a back-up after I took Utley early in the draft. Utley has done next to nothing so far but his power numbers should be high at some point.

Hopefully, Vidro can stay healthy.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by EmpireWF

Let me just say that Jose Vidro has been outstanding early in the season. I was able to take him as a back-up after I took Utley early in the draft. Utley has done next to nothing so far but his power numbers should be high at some point.

Hopefully, Vidro can stay healthy.

Vidro always did have an upside...I guess he has slipped down to sleeper status huh?

[EmpireWF]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Vidro always did have an upside...I guess he has slipped down to sleeper status huh?

Vidro has become something of an afterthought in the NL over the past couple of years. The last time he had over 140 games played was in 2003. He appears to be healthy now and amazingly, last year through 80 games he still batted over .270.

I'm sure in drafts, he was among the 3rd or 4th group of 2b taken.

[ThePundit]

Chase Utley finally broke out tonight!