[ThomasBrownUGA]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Thomas, I definitely respect your opinions and your well thought-out posts, but is it fair to punish Navy (or any other school, for that matter) for seizing the opportunity which they were given? I certainly don't believe so. Now, we've already decided to set a minimum participation requirement so there won't be any easy 1.000 winning percentages. Beyond that, anything's fair game. The challenge for every conference is the same - beat the opponent set before you - and we're not going to "weight" any of the games for value. The best conference will get wins out of it's top team as well as it's weakest bowl teams equally.

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Though I see now that, if the SEC fails to have the highest winning percentage, fans of the conference already have their excuse du jour picked out: "The SEC will Win More Bowl Games this year on the weighted value of the Bowls than any other conference. What the Mountain West Won/Loss Record is is given weight by the bowl game they won." It doesn't work that way. Best winning percentage is the only thing that matters. Win the ones you play, period.

Thank you Lefty, but the question is not is it fair to Navy who played the Official NCAA Strength of Schedule Number 116, lost 4 games and beat none of the BCS Final Top 25 teams (Navy beat none of the BCS Top 30 teams.). But, is it fair to The SEC to consider that bowl game Navy plays in as just as equal in importance to say LSU playing in the BCS National Championship Game ?

That's the question.

The Poinsettia bowl pays a total of $750,000 shared between Utah and Navy, is played on December 20th, and is the 1st bowl game. The way I see it, Empire and you and all SEC jealous posters want to come up with a manner to make it look unfair to Navy or Utah that they play in the worst stinking bowl game of all. How about the next bowl game ? The New Orleans bowl pays $325,000 shared between Florida Atlantic and Memphis. This bowl is played December 21. Do you really intend to tell me it is unfair that Florida Atlantic and Memphis should not be given equal opportunity to win your biased set-up of the Sunbelt or Conference USA gets 1 bowl win for that game, while all you assign to The SEC is 1 Win if LSU wins ? Florida Atlantic is a 5-loss team who did that against the SOS No. 107 and their best win is over No. 55 in the Final BCS Top 25 rankings. Memphis, also a 5-loss team, played SOS No. 119 (That's 119 of 120 by the way.) and Memphis' best win ? No. 81 in the BCS Rankings is the best win by Memphis. So, you say to me that The SEC should get no more weight in your biased contest rules you set up here in this thread for LSU bowl win than Memphis. Oh, it's unfair to Memphis Thomas to give them a watered down bowl win compared to say LSU if they win the BCS NC Game bowl.

Assign the bowls in the order established here that these bowls are in fact worth one thirty-second of the value were SEC LSU to win the BCS NC Game. As a matter of fact, I would say the loser of that game should be assigned 16 times more value than the Poinsettia winner and 15 times more value than the winner of the New Orleans Bowl between Florida Atlantic and Memphis. Weenie bowls mean nothing. Sorry. What they actually mean is that the teams played horribly this season. Is it unfair to them that their game means nothing ? Excuse me they earned those crappy "bowl games." 32 bowl games. 64 teams. And, we have a bowl game between the weenie conferences who played the numbers 119 and 107 strength of schedule losing ten (10) games between them. And, that bowl is worth the same as LSU winning the BCS NC game in New Orleans ? I think you know better than to present that to anyone. Why do I have to be the one to tell you Lefty that your contest is biased against The SEC ?

Who wins the most big bowl games is the conference who has the most then Top 25 Ranked Teams in the polls at season end. That is the conference who did best in the bowls. It takes into account that LSU losing to Ohio State is worth 15 times more than the winner even between Florida Atlantic and Memphis.

So, yeah, it's fair to Florida Atlantic and Memphis. If you look at these weenie bowls, you will see that The SEC's worst team beat the participants.

Again, don't bring this weak stuff about being unfair to Florida Atlantic or Memphis, when they play in a "bowl game" the winner of which gets half of $325,000, is between 2 teams ranked in the BCS Final Top 25 number 86 and number 67, and that winning bowl team is not nearly as valuable as the loser of the BCS NC Game. Conference USA has no team ranked in the BCS Final Top 25 (none in the BCS Top 30 either.) and the Sunbelt Conference has no team ranked in the Final BCS Top 54 teams.

And, you come in here and try to suggest that it is unfair to them that The SEC has 9 Bowl Games spread out from the $1.7 million dollar payout of Mississippi State the 29th a week after these bowl games to the BCS NC Title Game ?

Junk.

If the SEC wins 5 Bowl Games and they are all played New Year's Eve or later and The SEC shares $55 million dollars from the prestigious bowls we damn sure earned and the Sunbelt gets less than $2 million dollars total and has played all their bowl games before our worst team plays The SEC's 1st bowl game, then who gives a rats behind what their record is in the weenie bowls ?

You ?

Oh, yeah. I am sure you want to try to tell the world that who wins the bowl game December 21 between Memphis SOS 119 and Florida Atlantic SOS 107 is just as important, and unfair to them to measure otherwise, as LSU winning the BCS NC Title Game. BS with all due respect. If the SEC wins 5 top bowl games and the Sunbelt wins all their wennie bowls, trust me no one thinks the Sunbelt did better this season after the bowl games.

[ThomasBrownUGA]

Originally Posted by EmpireWF

Enough of this talk about how the SEC is the best, blah blah blah. Lefty posted some stats in another thread, the SEC is not superior to the Big 12, let alone any other.

Originally Posted by EmpireWF

I'm here to predict the SEC will not have the best bowl record when it's all said and done. I don't know who it will be but I do know it won't be the SEC.


/rant

I am addressing this Topic Post and Thread Title. Who is The Best in Bowl Games this season, The SEC not superior to Big XII or any other conference brought up, predictions of The SEC will not have the Best Bowl Record when it's all said and done. Our Bowl Record at this point, is already better, so you devalue the bowl games we earned (only 2 prior to New Year's Eve), and try to disregard that The Best Bowl Record is the Conference who Wins the Most Bowl Games because we earned The Most Bowl Games (and left behind a 6-6 Steve Spurrier South Carolina at home who beat No. 5 BCS UGA and who played the NCAA Official Strength of Schedule No. 8 http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/toughest%20schedule/ia_9games_cumm.pdf .)

So, you dream up that SOS No. 119 Conference USA Memphis 5 losses Final BCS Rank 86 vs. SOS No. 107 Sun Belt Florida Atlantic 5 losses Final BCS Rank 67 Winner is just as important as LSU bowl game winner. It would be lovely if we could throw away what's fair that The SEC earned the position we are in to have 9 teams in bowl games (should be 10 looking at this bowl game December 21 also in New Orleans), and dream up some other method to value these weenie bowls the same as you wish you could present but have failed to do so as The BCS NC Title Game The SEC is in. Lovely, if you are a Big XII fan. Lovely, is you are a biased Big 10 fan. Lovely, if you are a biased Big East fan. Lovely, if you are a biased non BCS Conference. Lovely, if you are a ACC fan. Lovely, if you are a PAC-10 fan.

If you Win More of the Big Bowl Games, you have the Best Bowl Record and you can measure that by the 6 Ranked BCS Top 25 Teams The SEC has on this day, which is the day the Bowl Games begin we earned our position in. You cannot throw that away that which we have earned.

If you want to have such a bowl contest and intended some other words than the ones used in the Title Subject to this thread and the words used in this Title Subject Post, then you should have said so. You cannot change the rules now because it is UNFAIR to weenie bowl winners, who you now suggest is just as important as LSU winning the BCS NC Title Game. Sun Belt Florida Atlantic or Conf USA Memphis winning their weenie bowl means nothing compared to LSU winning the BCS NC Title Game. LSU beat 4 BCS Final Top 25 ranked football programs this season, while neither the Conf USA nor Sun Belt have even one single team in the BCS Final Top 25 by direct comparison. I'm not changing the rules. You are.

We have 9 teams. We play 7 games New Year's Eve or later. We have our share of $55 million from the bowl game payout alone.

We are the Winner of This Contest, before it started because we already have the Best Bowl Record. The Loser of LSU and Ohio State is Better than the winner of Memphis and Florida Atlantic. These bowl games do not compare as to who then had the Best Bowl Record. SEC will have.

You wish you could disregard that The SEC has 9. Good try. The Subject Title to this Thread and the Subject Title Post say not one word about disregard the fact that The SEC has 9 teams. Best Bowl Record. That's what it says.

We already have that. Eat your hearts out. If LSU loses to Ohio State, The SEC has a Better Bowl Record than the "winner" between Florida Atlantic and Memphis. The SEC has The Best Bowl Record no matter what happens in the bowls, because we by God Above Earned it that we have 7 Teams ranked in the Top 25 Polls which we look at today before the kickoff of the bowl season.

You cannot and have not told me or anyone else including especially yourselves that the winner of Florida Atlantic or Memphis is as valuable to earn what you say as Title to the Thread nor Title Subject Post Best Bowl Record and you have failed to present given specific obviously undeniable evidence herein that the Big XII is superior to The SEC. Hopefully, you get it. You said it wrong. I addressed your then sitting there trying to decide how to all of a sudden level the playing field of The SEC versus every other conference. You cannot level the playing field when this is the Opening Statement :

Originally Posted by EmpireWF

[b] Enough of this talk about how the SEC is the best, blah blah blah. Lefty posted some stats in another thread,

the SEC is not superior to the Big 12, let alone any other. [b]

/rant

The SEC is Superior to all conferences in Bowl Games already. Get over your resentful jealous biased angry bitter envious covetous desirous suspicious prejudiced unfair partial influenced predisposed inclined bias against The Superior Conference in Bowl Games 2007-2008.

Thank you.

[Lefty Noob]

But, is it fair to The SEC to consider that bowl game Navy plays in as just as equal in importance to say LSU playing in the BCS National Championship Game ?

Yes, it is. A win is a win. Every win matters. Remember, we're looking at total conference strength here - a win by LSU in the national title game with the rest of the SEC going .500 or worse does not make them the best conference. It makes the Tigers the best team, but proves nothing about the SEC. That's been my argument from the start - last year, an SEC team (Florida) beat a Big Ten team (OSU) in the nationa title game, but the rest of the SEC went 0-2 against the Big Ten. So head to head, which conference was better? Your best beat there best, but in the end, their second and third tier teams overcame yours. Depth matters too.

[ThomasBrownUGA]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Yes, it is. A win is a win. Every win matters. Remember, we're looking at total conference strength here - a win by LSU in the national title game with the rest of the SEC going .500 or worse does not make them the best conference. It makes the Tigers the best team, but proves nothing about the SEC. That's been my argument from the start - last year, an SEC team (Florida) beat a Big Ten team (OSU) in the national title game, but the rest of the SEC went 0-2 against the Big Ten. So head to head, which conference was better? Your best beat there best, but in the end, their second and third tier teams overcame yours. Depth matters too.

Question : Are you a person who does not like The SEC ?

A win in the weenie bowl tomorrow between 119 SOS Memphis whose best win is over No. 81 Final BCS Ranked team vs. 107 SOS Florida Atlantic whose best win is over No. 55 Final BCS Ranked teams is just exactly the same in your mind as a possible LSU BCS NC Title Game Bowl win whose SOS is Top 25 and whose best wins this year already include the most in America four (4) Wins over BCS Final Top 25 teams No. 3 Virginia Tech, No. 12 Florida, No. 16 Tennessee, and No. 23 Auburn. I got it Lefty.

I never thought I would ever see someone make such a statement ever in my lifetime. Congratulations.

Georgia plays a BCS Top 10 team and is BCS No. 5. We play in the BCS Sugar Bowl and since the BCS doesn't have a poll after the bowl games reverts to the Final AP Poll which we are No. 4 in now today. So, if LSU wins or loses their bowl game, UGA is right there behind LSU to move up to what ? No. 3 ? Stay No. 4 ? Something like that; right Lefty ?

Tennessee No. 16 BCS the same day as UGA plays for our share of $17 million dollar payout, plays in a $3 million dollar Top-Tier Bowl Game New Year's Day too. Against Big 10 Wisconsin who by the way could end up in the Top 15 teams in the nation, and no matter what both will be Top 25 teams too - like Georgia.

Florida No. 12 BCS plays New Year's Day in a $4.25 million dollar payout bowl game. Florida is playing Big 10 Michigan who beat No. 13 Illinois who I think because Illinois beat both No. 18 Wisconsin and No. 1 Ohio State, will beat Southern California who played the Number 80 SOS.

Arkansas ranked in some Top 25 polls now, plays in the Cotton Bowl New Year's Day too and Arkansas beat No. 2 LSU. They play for their share of $3 million dollars against Missouri who beat No. 8 BCS Kansas and No. 13 BCS Illinois. And, if LSU loses to or wins against Ohio State means that what ? All these top-flight SEC Bowl Games mean nothing ? BS. Total unadulterated BS.

Kentucky plays Florida State. They share 1.5 million to bring to The SEC to be shared on New Year's Eve.

No. 23 BCS Auburn plays for our SEC share of $5.65 million dollars against No. 15 BCS Clemson New Year's Eve, and what Auburn does doesn't matter because if LSU wins, it's just The Winner of the BCS NC Title Game, or if LSU loses what happens doesn't matter, because The SEC already Lost the national championship.

That incredible position, is not being bettered by repeating it Lefty. If Depth Matters, The SEC has 9 Bowl Games and 7 of them are the Top College Football Bowls paying out our share of $55 million dollars. And, those are meaningless compared to what happens with Memphis versus Florida Atlantic tomorrow. Good thing this is The Internet where you can go log out and hope no one reads this.

There is no comparison between the bowl games The SEC is playing this year and any other conference, and you know that Lefty, and that is why you put forth the proposition that all bowl games are bloody exactly the same equal games. Yeah, right.

A win in the weenie bowl tomorrow between 119 SOS Memphis whose best win is over No. 81 Final BCS Ranked team vs. 107 SOS Florida Atlantic whose best win is over No. 55 Final BCS Ranked teams is just exactly the same in your mind as a possible LSU BCS NC Title Game Bowl win whose SOS is Top 25 and whose best wins this year already include the most in America four (4) Wins over BCS Final Top 25 teams No. 3 Virginia Tech, No. 12 Florida, No. 16 Tennessee, and No. 23 Auburn. I got it Lefty.

[Lefty Noob]

I have nothing against the SEC. Just don't like it when SEC fans dog other conferences, or claim that theirs is the only one that matters.

In the terms of this bet, all wins will be treated equally - to do otherwise would add a benefit of subjectivity into the bet that we just can't do. If LSU loses, the SEC didn't lose the national title, LSU did. If every other SEC team wins and they have the best winning percentage, then Empire and I lose the bet.

Read this: Bowl Challenge Cup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is, in essence, what we're doing here. So if an entire TV network does it this way, how can you make this statement: "I never thought I would ever see someone make such a statement ever in my lifetime. Congratulations." I for one am really blown away that anyone would object to a system like this. It's far more equitable than trying to assign subjective "values" to each of the bowls.

[ThomasBrownUGA]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

I have nothing against the SEC. Just don't like it when SEC fans dog other conferences, or claim that theirs is the only one that matters.

In the terms of this bet, all wins will be treated equally - to do otherwise would add a benefit of subjectivity into the bet that we just can't do. If LSU loses, the SEC didn't lose the national title, LSU did. If every other SEC team wins and they have the best winning percentage, then Empire and I lose the bet.

Read this: Bowl Challenge Cup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is, in essence, what we're doing here. So if an entire TV network does it this way, how can you make this statement: "I never thought I would ever see someone make such a statement ever in my lifetime. Congratulations." I for one am really blown away that anyone would object to a system like this. It's far more equitable than trying to assign subjective "values" to each of the bowls.

Ok, that's good thank you Lefty. The SEC is not the only conference that matters. The way I see it either the Big 10 or SEC wins the National Championship, and that is something in this sport.

Big XII has 3 top-ranked teams which is awesome.

Big East has a team up there.

ACC does too.

PAC-10 had a bit of down year but they too have teams to be proud of.

The non-BCS Conferences have established themselves too and while Navy is the only independent in any bowl game, hey they made me 1-0 in bowl picks to-date vs. the spread from Las Vegas announced as the opening lines to that bowl game last night.

I will go read your bowl challenge cup as I have read every other URL Link provided in this thread.

But, if you think when the bowls are over that you can assign to me for 3 weeks some avatar of a weenie conference whose best SOS is No. 100 in the nation of 120 teams and who has zero or 1 ranked team in the entire stinking conference, and who wins no bowl game New Year's Eve or later, then you missed my point. For I will not participate in such a biased view of The Bowl Championship Subdivision I have grown up on, consider my hobby, and Love for all my soul.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays Lefty and everyone else who lurks and doesn't post. By the way, what's with all the stickies so that folks who come in here see posts stuck at the top no one has even bothered reading let alone responded to in a month?

[Tuck4Bama]

Hello Thomas,

It's funny that you claim no one has posted in this thread for a month. The drop off in posts seems to be directly related to the time that you started posting in this thread. You see there are several of us on this forum who just love sports and like having fun with friendly bets and occasional ribbing about teams and conferences. Our bowl pick em is for fun and nothing else, you pick the winner and you are either right or wrong. Most of us make these picks without having to crunch the numbers of a teams strength of schedule, points allowed and points scored. We all have the ability to look up all of the stats that you love to post and can get as technical as anyone when needed, we just don't feel the need to try to impress other members.

Welcome to our forum and try to lighten up and have some fun.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Tuck4Bama

Welcome to our forum and try to lighten up and have some fun.

Please take note of this Thomas.

[ThomasBrownUGA]

I'll stack up The SEC's SIX (6) Bowl Wins last season to the Big East's 5 bowl wins last year, anyday. And, that is why there is no one as sponsor of the Cup Challenge any more Lefty. It is meaningless.

The Bowl Challenge Cup has no sponsor anymore. Why is that ? Because it is meaningless that the Big East went 5-0 in Bowl Games last season looking at their Rankings, the bowls they played in, and the fact that in fact The SEC Won more bowl games than did the Big East.

Big East Cincinnati won the international bowl against Western Michigan. Whoop-tee-do. With the win, Cincinnati ended the season 8-5 and ranked No. 44 in the Final BCS Top 25. Western Michigan also ended 8-5 and were ranked No. 60 in the BCS Final Rankings. These 2 teams did not deserve to be playing in a bowl game, neither of them. And therefore they had to play each other in a meaningless bowl played on cable, no one attended, no one watched, with the worst TV ratings on TV that night, each team getting only $375,000 for their appearance which did not even cover their expenses to get to Toronto for the game as each team lost money playing in the game, and this was a bad bowl game obviously. Wouldn’t you concede the poor match-up of two nobody teams last year who no one cared if they played in a bowl game, never mind who won between them ? No credit for winning this bowl game, no matter who won.

Big East Louisville won an Orange Bowl, of course it was against Weak Forest. This was after a season in which Louisville beat 1 team in the BCS Final Top 39 teams. It was the Orange Bowl’s worst showing ever in the history of the Orange Bowl. It was so dead that as they scanned the stadium more than half the seats were empty, no one on TV watched, no one cared and eventually Weak Forest was exposed as an imposter because Weak Forest beat not one single team ranked in the Final AP Poll Top 25. But, if you want to give the Big East a Bowl Win for this game against this nobody that no one watched, I would too. 1-0.

Big East Rutgers won the Texas Bowl. Whoop-tee-do. $625,000 their share for playing in Houston 3 days before New Year’s Eve. As with both the other bowl games, no one was at the game, no one watched the game, and no one cared that the teams were in a “bowl” game, never mind who won between 2 again undeserving teams. Rutgers had played 2 games against the BCS Final Top 35 teams and lost 1. Its opponent for such a crappy weenie bowl game was a 6-loss Kansas State team ranked the No. 55 team in the Final BCS Rankings last year who managed to lose to Baylor ranked No. 80 and Kansas ranked No. 70 both last year. Thus, they got to play each other in a who cares weenie bowl. No credit for winning this bowl game, no matter who won.

Big East South Florida won the Papajohns “bowl” game which finds only 4 bowl games played before it on the 22nd of December in Birmingham Alabama for a grand total payout of $375,000 a team. Again, the seats were empty, no one there, no one watched on TV, and no one cared in this weenie bowl. No credit for winning this bowl game, no matter who won. South Florida was No. 40 in the Final BCS Rankings and East Carolina, their opponent, was No. 64 with 6 losses.

Big East West Virginia who had played 2 of the BCS Final Top 39 teams, and won only 1 against the Top 39 teams played Georgia Tech, another unranked opponent for the Big East in all their bowl games. Tech had lost 5 games last year and had played 1 of the BCS Final Top 34 teams, losing it too. This was the Gator Bowl Game in Jacksonville which everyone laughed at for their being once again more empty seats than anyone there, no one watched on TV, and no one cared the result of the game. But, because it was the Gator Bowl, they get credit for this win.

The Big East was 2-0 in Bowl Games, as I see it last season.

The SEC Won 6 Bowl Games last year, not the 5 Bowl Games won by the Big East.

South Carolina won their bowl game, if these weenie bowl “wins” by the Big East count in some now sponsor less challenge. Georgia won the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl with its $5.65 million dollar payout in front a sold out crowd (I was there.) and Georgia beat Virginia Tech who was ranked No. 15. Auburn won the Cotton Bowl. Kentucky beat Clemson in their Bowl Game. LSU beat Notre Dame who was ranked No. 11 in the Final BCS Top 25 in the BCS Sugar Bowl. And, Florida embarrassed No. 1 Ohio State in the BCS National Championship Game 41-14. And, you come in here and announce Lefty that the Big East’s 2 Bowl wins compare to the SEC’s more bowl wins than the Big East anyway, and that their 3 weenie bowl wins are just as important as Florida beating the crap out of Ohio State in the BCS National Championship Game.

[Lefty Noob]

The Big East was 2-0 in Bowl Games, as I see it last season.

The rest of the world disagrees with you.

Anyway, believe what you want, Thomas. The bet is based on the conference with the best winning percentage in ALL their bowl games - not just the ones you or someone else handpicks because they're the "most important" games. This is supposed to be all in fun, because the people involved are football fans, yes, but we're all friends here and we don't take our football too damn seriously.

[EmpireWF]

Here's an update......

up today:

Cincinnati (Big East) vs. Southern Miss (CUSA)
Nevada (WAC) vs. New Mexico (Moutain West)
UCLA (Pac 10) vs. BYU (Mountain West)



Mountain West: 6 (1-0)
Utah - W, beat NAVY, 35-32
New Mexico
BYU
East Carolina
TCU
Air Force

ACC: 8
Boston College
Virginia Tech
Maryland
Georgia Tech
Wake Forest
Florida State
Clemson
Virginia

Pac 10: 6
UCLA
Arizona State
Oregon State
California
Oregon
USC

CUSA: 5 (0-1)
Memphis - L, loss to FA 44-27
Southern Miss
Houston
Tulsa
Central Florida

Big East: 5
Cincinnati
UConn
South Florida
Rutgers
West Virginia

WAC: 4
Nevada
Fresno State
Boise State
Hawaii

Big 10: 8
Purdue
Michigan State
Penn State
Michigan
Wisconsin
Indiana
Ohio State
Illinois

Big 12: 8
Texas
Oklahoma
Texas A&M
Colorado
Oklahoma State
Missouri
Kansas
Texas Tech

SEC: 9
Mississippi State
Alabama
Kentucky
Auburn
Florida
Arkansas
Georgia
Tennessee
LSU

[EmpireWF]

Sunday update....

Overall Record:
Mountain West: 6 (3-0)
Big East: 5 (1-0)
ACC: 8 (0-0)
Big 10: 8 (0-0)
Big 12: 8 (0-0)
SEC: 9 (0-0)
Pac 10: 6 (0-1)
WAC: 4 (0-1)
CUSA: 5 (0-2)

up today:
Boise State (WAC) vs. East Carolina (Mountain West)


Mountain West: 6 (3-0)
Utah - W, beat NAVY, 35-32
New Mexico - W, beat Nevada, 23-0
BYU - W, beat UCLA, 17-16
East Carolina
TCU
Air Force

ACC: 8
Boston College
Virginia Tech
Maryland
Georgia Tech
Wake Forest
Florida State
Clemson
Virginia

Pac 10: 6 (0-1)
UCLA - L, loss to BYU, 17-16
Arizona State
Oregon State
California
Oregon
USC

CUSA: 5 (0-2)
Memphis - L, loss to FA 44-27
Southern Miss - L, loss to Cincinnati, 31-21
Houston
Tulsa
Central Florida

Big East: 5 (1-0)
Cincinnati - W, beat Southern Miss, 31-21
UConn
South Florida
Rutgers
West Virginia

WAC: 4 (0-1)
Nevada - L, loss to New Mexico, 23-0
Fresno State
Boise State
Hawaii

Big 10: 8
Purdue
Michigan State
Penn State
Michigan
Wisconsin
Indiana
Ohio State
Illinois

Big 12: 8
Texas
Oklahoma
Texas A&M
Colorado
Oklahoma State
Missouri
Kansas
Texas Tech

SEC: 9
Mississippi State
Alabama
Kentucky
Auburn
Florida
Arkansas
Georgia
Tennessee
LSU

[ThomasBrownUGA]

In the last 2 days, there are 2 threads with any post in them at all, and attacking posts toward telling me I am in the blame is lame. By the way, the other thread with any posts in it in the last several days is 1 only 1 posted in the last several days. This, in essence is the only thread with any posts in it in the entire forum; pretty dead except for my posts actually ?

UPDATE :

0-2 Conference USA

0-1 Independents (This group is now finished as there is only 1 Independent in any bowl.)

0-1 WAC (3 remaining games)

0-1 PAC-10 (5 remaining games only 1 of which is after New Year's Eve)

3-0 Mountain West (3 weenie bowl wins with 2 remaining games)

1-0 Sun Belt (weenie bowl win)

1-0 Big East (weenie bowl win over Final BCS Ranked No. 81 team)

1st SEC game is one week after all these meaningless weenie bowl games to-date.

[EmpireWF]

Again Thomas, this contest is not about who wins the bowls we feel are "more important" than others. This is about which conference will have the best bowl record, period.

A bowl is a bowl.

[Lefty Noob]

Alright, let's get this back on topic.

SEC vs. The Field: Who Has the Best Bowl Record
SEC - Quality88, vincesanity82, JRL
Someone Else - EmpireWF, Lefty Noob

Well, since the bowl season is in full swing already, I guess it's just the four of us participating, right?