[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Nuke

Charlie Frye will lead the Browns into the playoffs. This was his first full year starting and he was hurt a good part of it. Even Peyton Manning needed time to develop. Speaking of Peyton, you give that piece of human garbage Peyton's adopted (?) brother Eli Manning all the time in the world to throw interceptions and miss recievers with a great running game to support him so give Frye just a little time to learn the NFL please?

Well the guy did get sacked 44 times so he is not getting any help...so its too early to tell...but I really do not see him leading them to the playoffs.

[Notorious C.L.E.]

If all other options are exhausted, which they won't be, then I guess I would have no problem drafting Brady Quinn.

Even if we put aside the questions about Brady Quinn as a prospect, this franchise isn't a prime candidate for grabbing quarterback. Charlie Frye was awfully inconsistent this year, but I think you have to give him one more season to prove or disprove the notion that he can be a successful starting quarterback in the NFL. Personally, I would err towards the side which thinks he isn't, but I want to be absolutely certain that he isn't before I go out and dump in excess of $40 million on a young signal-caller with his fair share of criticism, some deserved and some undeserved.

In my opinion, you supply the trenches with talented bodies, establish a respectable ground game, reinforce the perimeters with skill players, and install a familiar offense to the players around him before you take the plunge into drafting a high quarterback. Arguably, the Browns have one of the four. Throwing any rookie quarterback into that unfavorable set of circumstances isn't conducive to success or consistent with previous results. I'm not suggesting that every quarterback will fail, but lack of identity in several key facets of an offense tends to breed disappointment. You can still hit, but the odds you miss are also higher.

Stockpiling draft picks and addressing the numerous needs of the team at left tackle, left guard, center, right guard, right tackle, running back, defensive end, nose tackle, and cornerback all need to be taken care of too. It's not like the Browns are a quarterback away from the Promised Land.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Notorious C.L.E.

If all other options are exhausted, which they won't be, then I guess I would have no problem drafting Brady Quinn.

Even if we put aside the questions about Brady Quinn as a prospect, this franchise isn't a prime candidate for grabbing quarterback. Charlie Frye was awfully inconsistent this year, but I think you have to give him one more season to prove or disprove the notion that he can be a successful starting quarterback in the NFL. Personally, I would err towards the side which thinks he isn't, but I want to be absolutely certain that he isn't before I go out and dump in excess of $40 million on a young signal-caller with his fair share of criticism, some deserved and some undeserved.

In my opinion, you supply the trenches with talented bodies, establish a respectable ground game, reinforce the perimeters with skill players, and install a familiar offense to the players around him before you take the plunge into drafting a high quarterback. Arguably, the Browns have one of the four. Throwing any rookie quarterback into that unfavorable set of circumstances isn't conducive to success or consistent with previous results. I'm not suggesting that every quarterback will fail, but lack of identity in several key facets of an offense tends to breed disappointment. You can still hit, but the odds you miss are also higher.

Stockpiling draft picks and addressing the numerous needs of the team at left tackle, left guard, center, right guard, right tackle, running back, defensive end, nose tackle, and cornerback all need to be taken care of too. It's not like the Browns are a quarterback away from the Promised Land.

Ah heck, a sensible reply...Quinn does not deserve to go to Cleveland...heck, come to think of it, nobody deserves to go to Cleveland...

[Nuke]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Well the guy did get sacked 44 times so he is not getting any help...so its too early to tell...but I really do not see him leading them to the playoffs.

Well maybe he doesn't have to "lead them into the playoffs" so to speak Goth. If he doesn't turn out to be the next Dan Marino he just might play well enough in the Browns system with a good runningback and Edwards and Winslow to hook up with to get into the postseason. Anyway he got no help whatsoever last year but he did have some good moments and bad moments. It seemed like he spent most of his time in the pocket running for his life! In time if the Browns get some talent I think Frye will be very good but again it's too early now to tell either way. Dont forget one thing, it's not like it's hard to get in the playoffs nowadays guys!!