[Lefty Noob]

Will Marty Schottenheimer wind up as the coach of the Cleveland Browns? Not according to the Canton Repository. According to the paper's report, "The Cleveland Browns will not be pursuing their former coach, Marty Schottenheimer... Romeo Crennel is on thin ice after a 4-12 year. However, the brass decided in January to let Crennel spend 2007 either ratifying his regime or serving as a bridge to the next coach." Good move? I personally wouldn't mind seeing Marty back in Cleveland.

[Notorious C.L.E.]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Will Marty Schottenheimer wind up as the coach of the Cleveland Browns? Not according to the Canton Repository. According to the paper's report, "The Cleveland Browns will not be pursuing their former coach, Marty Schottenheimer... Romeo Crennel is on thin ice after a 4-12 year. However, the brass decided in January to let Crennel spend 2007 either ratifying his regime or serving as a bridge to the next coach." Good move? I personally wouldn't mind seeing Marty back in Cleveland.

I suppose I wouldn't mind Marty Schottenheimer, but I would much rather have Mike Singletary if he is still available next season; however, I am willing to bet that Phil Savage attains the services of Rex Ryan if/when Crennel gets fired.

[simple simon]

what would Crennel have to do in your opinion to stay ?

8-8......10-6.........wild card........2nd round ?

what would be enough for you to want to keep him

[azrael492]

How much time is left on his contract? I would give him that time to get it right. They have had too many coaches changing the system too many times since their return. At some point they are going to have to stick it out. With the players he has and the injuries that have occurred, he has not really been given a fair chance to prove himself.

[EmpireWF]

Don't forget all those injuries the Browns have had along with a lack of a solid QB. Crennel has had a string of bad luck in Cleveland. (Much like Belichick? Coincidence?)

[azrael492]

Originally Posted by EmpireWF

Don't forget all those injuries the Browns have had along with a lack of a solid QB. Crennel has had a string of bad luck in Cleveland. (Much like Belichick? Coincidence?)

I didn't want to mention the QB position because Frye went to my college. I was a fan of his. I am hoping he can get it right next year. Bentley should return and they have to improve the rest of the line.

[fredthefactor]

Originally Posted by Notorious C.L.E.

I suppose I wouldn't mind Marty Schottenheimer, but I would much rather have Mike Singletary if he is still available next season; however, I am willing to bet that Phil Savage attains the services of Rex Ryan if/when Crennel gets fired.

What will it take for everyone to realize that "Marty Chokenheimer" is just a average coach.
The guy would'nt have survived after cleveland if he would'nt have conspired with "Carl The Hustler Peterson" to strong arm the fans in Kansas City.
I'm willing to bet anything that there was'nt one coach that was playing a "Chokenheimer" coached team that had'nt before hand chalked it up as a win.
Marty is a product of system that takes care of there on members.
Anyone with eyes that work could see that a Marty coached team would'nt have lead the league in no catorgory.
It's plain as day that he was hideing behind his cordinators and the G.M shine the light on his Con Game he's been running since he left cleveland.
But for the Marty lovers i have a solution for Marty the only way he can regain his respect among fans and peers will be to go to the colledge ranks and prepare future stars for life in the NFL.
There would be no equal to his influence on a young man on how to conduct his self when reaching that next level.

[Lefty Noob]

No offense, fred, but if Marty's just an average coach then he's the luckiest son of a gun on the Earth, because he's earned 200 career wins, never had a losing record anywhere he's gone, and reached the playoffs 13 times in 21 years with three different teams. He's won Coach of the Year awards in three different years, and many different NFL head coaches worked under Marty, including Bill Cowher, Tony Dungy and Herm Edwards. He's also taken two different teams to the AFC Championship on three occasions, and should have taken taken San Diego there last year as well. He's not an average coach, he's a very good coach.

[ThePundit]

Just let Crennell have one more year and see what he can do. Schottenheimer is a good regular season coach. His teams always are competitive...but in the playoffs, I'd think I'd rather have Herm Edwards and that's not saying much.

[Notorious C.L.E.]

I was willing to give him next year to prove/disprove the notion that he can be a head coach in the NFL.

But, he has to show significant progress as a coach and the Browns have to do the same as a team. He needs to show at least some enthusiasm and better management skills. I don't want to give a specific record, but I would think that it must be clearly visible to see the team make substantial strides.

I am still praying that Mike Singletary does not get hired by the Chargers.

[Nuke]

The Browns will be making a great move to bring Schottenheimer back and the Chargers are fools to let him go because of one playoff loss.

[simple simon]

but you know if he went to the Browns and got them to the playoffs his record would be brought up again

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Cleveland Browns Should Hire Marty Schottenheimer -- Now
AOL SPORTS, NY - Feb 14, 2007
The Cleveland Browns should fire Romeo Crennel and hire Marty Schottenheimer. No, I don't mean next season. I mean right now.

This just makes sense on so many levels. First, let's face it: Crennel hasn't done a good job with the Browns. When he was the New England Patriots' defensive coordinator, I always thought Crennel would make a good head coach. But in two seasons at the helm in Cleveland, he's done nothing to make me keep that opinion. Have you ever watched the Browns in the Crennel era and thought you were watching a well-coached team?

Schottenheimer, of course, coached in Cleveland once before, and he gave the Browns their best years since the 1950s. And he'd be a perfect fit for the current Browns: He favors the 3-4 defense, which they're set up to run, and his former assistant, Rob Chudzinski, was just hired as the Browns' offensive coordinator.

Barring a major turnaround in 2007, Crennel will be out of a job in 11 months. Schottenheimer would be the obvious candidate. If they hire him now, they won't have to get into a bidding war with another team for Schottenheimer's services, which could happen next year.

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[Lefty Noob]

Interesting theory -- hire Marty now and save having to outbid other teams for his services. Only problem is, a lot of people aren't willing to give up on Romeo Crennel, and there's definitely a possibility with the talent returning from injury and the high draft pick they have, that Cleveland could turn this thing around in 2007.

[Notorious C.L.E.]

Believe me, Browns fans are well-aware of Marty's playoff failures from his first stint with the team. The Drive happened because Marty switched to a prevent defense early, which gave Elway everything underneath.

I am behind Crennel for 2007, at least. Hiring Marty right now would be highly unethical in my opinion, because we already gave Crennel the vote of confidence that he'd be here next year. To withdraw that display of support because a hotter name entered the market would show a severe lack of class and hinder the chances that another coach jumps into the fiasco after Marty. Not to mention, Schottenheimer wouldn't have a coaching staff that he has experience with, save Chudzinski.

Personally, I wouldn't bring Marty in with the expectation of deep postseason runs, but with the idea that he can leave the Browns better than he found them. If I recall correctly, Marty inherited a Charger team that finished 1-15 and 5-11 the previous two seasons. In his first year with the team, they went 8-8 and have since had records of 12-4, 9-7, and 14-2. With the Chiefs, the team was like 8-23-1 over the two previous seasons, and they finished 8-7-1 their first year under him. His track record of turning things around even extends back to the Browns, as he took over in the middle of a 5-11 season, but his next three years were 8-8, 10-6, and 12-4. Quite frankly, with his age, Marty is no more than a bridge to the next coach, so this role suits him well.

Now, the the issue with coexisting with general manager Phil Savage. I am not aware how much the issue was publicized outside the Cleveland media, but Savage wields the majority of power with the Browns. He, not Romeo, had the final decision on all coaching staff affairs. He, not Romeo, has the final say with all personnel decisions. Coming from a messy divorce in San Diego due in large part to A.J. Smith, one would have to wonder how willing he would be to jump into a similar situation.