[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Hardtobealionsfan

hopefully the bears give Ortin a chance. If I remember right didn't he step in for Grossman a couple seasons ago and win like 4 out of 5. (I remember because they swept my Lions that season with him at the helm.) What do they have to lose, give the guy a chance, He's been grooming for what, four years or so. I do agree signing a veteran would be a plus, maybe Carson Palmer I think he's looking to leave the Bengals. I don't expect the Bears to re-sign Grossman though I'd definitely lose Greise. I think I would also try to get a premiere running back. They had something special with the one two punch with Jones and Benson, Jones being the one and Benson being the two.

See, I am with you...I never though Orton got a fair shake...he got thrown in as a rookie and they never really committed to playing him after that.

[Hardtobealionsfan]

lately, the bears have made some really strange decisions in my opinion. but being a lions fan I'm used to that. But they sure hit a homerun with Hester didn't they? What an amazing athlete he has turned out to be. I think I would put him in as a tailback once in awhile just to shake things up. Hmm I wonder if he can throw the ball? Michael vick who?

[Be Da Bear]

Originally Posted by azrael492

They should have cut their losses when he couldn't stay healthy his first two years.

I could see your point if Grossman missed time because of turf toe, sore finger, or a hamstring. He went out with season ending injuries. Also the Bears just got over Cade McNown being a bust. I don't think any other team would have cut Grossman under those circumstances.

Think about it. How mad would you be as a fan with your team drafting a QB #1 in 1999 and in 3 years he's gone. Then your team drafts a QB in the 1st round in 2003. You are going to cut him in 2005 (2years into a 5 year deal) because he got hurt? If his injuries were going to end his career that's one thing, but it wasn't the case with Grossman. At times he led the team and other times he didn't. He played well at the end of the 2005 season and gave a since of hope just coming up short against Seattle in the playoff game. You are not going to cut him after that. He came out looking like an MVP in 2006 and got to the big game but something happend along the way. A lot of INT's and missed snaps and fumbles. How I see it now is that Grossman is to short to be a pocket passer in the NFL. I think he has trouble seeing down field if he doesn't have good throwing lanes. A lot of timing routes with Grossman, and that lets other teams defenses jump his passing routes. If Grossman was a moble QB we might not even be talking about this.

I thought this would be Grossmans year to come back and shut everyone up. But, it looks like I was wrong. It looks like he's going to be a #2 QB, or a QB that is going start for a year to bridge the spot for a year.

With this latest injury to Grossman it's the Bears that are in the drivers seat. I think if anything you offer him a 2 year deal. You cut Griese. You give Orton a 2 year deal, and you pick up a FA QB. If there is one out there. If not a FA QB, then the Bears have to draft a QB if not in this up coming draft, the following one forsure.

[Be Da Bear]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

you need a capable veteran, a Trent Dilfer type. Or alternatively, contact the Browns and see if you can land Brady Quinn. I mean, why not? What have you got to lose?

Are you kidding me? A Trent Dilfer type? Have you seen what he has been doing in S.F? The Bears had one or two of those QB's a few years ago called Chandler and Stewart. If Philly lets McNabb go I could see going after him but his injuries scare me.

As far as Quinn goes. What would we have to lose? EVERYTHING! That's what we would lose going after him imo. Unless Cleveland was going to give him away, but I don't think they will do that. I mean Randy Moss went for a 4 round pick so if we could get Quinn for a 5th, 6th, or 7th round pick than maybe that would be alright. I wouldn't be falling all over myself over Brady Quinn though.

[azrael492]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

See, I am with you...I never though Orton got a fair shake...he got thrown in as a rookie and they never really committed to playing him after that.

I always thought this as well. Didn't he lead them to 10 wins that year???

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by azrael492

I always thought this as well. Didn't he lead them to 10 wins that year???

They won 10 games. To say he led them to those 10 wins isn't entirely accurate. He didn't make mistakes, and that was good enough.