[ThePundit]

After that horrific peformance, you have to wonder whether Grossman will become another Rick Ankiel.

I mean, it's one thing to play bad. It's another to not look like a professional doing it: On so many of his passes, he looked like a little kid playing touch football, just fading back and throwing the ball as high as he could.

Grossman had trouble dealing with the media questioning during this week. He was surly and short with everybody. And that was only one week!

Now he's going to be criticized until he gets back to the Super Bowl. No matter how good he plays during the year, he'll still have to answer questions about this.

Does he have the temperment to deal with it or would the Bears just be better off going in a different direction at QB?

[fredthefactor]

[quote=ThePundit;88405]After that horrific peformance, you have to wonder whether Grossman will become another Rick Ankiel.

I mean, it's one thing to play bad. It's another to not look like a professional doing it: On so many of his passes, he looked like a little kid playing touch football, just fading back and throwing the ball as high as he could.

Grossman had trouble dealing with the media questioning during this week. He was surly and short with everybody. And that was only one week!

Now he's going to be criticized until he gets back to the Super Bowl. No matter how good he plays during the year, he'll still have to answer questions about this.
I'll Just say he's better off staying in miami for a little while longer he's the biggest reason why they lost not the only.
I think sticking with that ship should have cost Lovie that fat Contract.
Whatever Happen to doing what's best for the team?
And how did It get replaced with I'm sticking with who I think is best?
You see It all the time around the NFL look at "Kansas City "we have fan's here that did'nt careless who played in the Game yesterday because of Silly coaching self centerness moves like that one.
I mean really did lovie seek dungy's advise about how to handle that problem or what.
Now i would'nt be the factor If I did'nt throw out this conspiracy factor Lovie has a ring Tony did'nt.
Can you explain why everybody but Hester was running kickoffs and punts back in the Biggest game of the year.

[ThePundit]

Here are how some Bears' fans from the 'Da Bears Blog feel:

Do the Bears actually have a backup QB? I have never seen a more pathetic performance. I couldn't sit down watching this game I was so pissed off. #4 trooper7 said . . .

Hmmm, thats a tough way to lose. During Da offseason the Bears must find a new QB. ENUFFF SAID......

#5 Badtwin said . . .
I'm devastated. That damned Grossman has done it again! He sucks. Will the Bears EVER get a great quarterback? We had the game won. Run the ball! All he had to do was not fumble and not throw interceptions! The defense got tired during the third quarter. They have been bailing his ass out all year long!

Da' Bears Blog: The Game We Let Get Away

[Gotham Dark Knight]

I've said it all season long...the man is not a starter...even Simon would take Michael vick over him...right Simon?...Simon are you there?

[Stonewall]

Hey guys
Grossman did have somthing to do with the fact that the Bears played at all last night.
Dont ya think?

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

I've said it all season long...the man is not a starter...even Simon would take Michael vick over him...right Simon?...Simon are you there?

yes i would think Vick would have done a better job then Grossman in the Super Bowl

ya happy now ? .........i found a starting QB i would replace with Vick

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by simple simon

yes i would think Vick would have done a better job then Grossman in the Super Bowl

ya happy now ? .........i found a starting QB i would replace with Vick

very much so!...I mean we had to go as low as Rex Gross-man for you to budge, but I am like a little water drip...I eventually wear down the rock!... ...Thanks for tossing me a bone...

[BUZZMAN2333]

I admire Lovie for sticking with Grossman. I did not hear too many complain after victories over SEattle and New Orleans.

That was his first full year of starting ... Look at Eli Manning? Look at Peyton's stats his first year of starting.

Give the guy a break! Did he play bad in the superbowl? Yes ....
But he DID get them there .. all his teammates back him as did his coach.

Rex is the future of the Bears and the future looks bright.

[fredthefactor]

Originally Posted by BUZZMAN2333

I admire Lovie for sticking with Grossman. I did not hear too many complain after victories over SEattle and New Orleans.

That was his first full year of starting ... Look at Eli Manning? Look at Peyton's stats his first year of starting.

Give the guy a break! Did he play bad in the superbowl? Yes ....
But he DID get them there .. all his teammates back him as did his coach.

Rex is the future of the Bears and the future looks bright.

Yeah right as long as Lovie keeps thinking his defense can keep bailing him out.
He needs to be fair and let Grease compete for that starting position.
Dungy has to much influense on Herman and Lovie In terms of loyalty to there failing Quaterbacks this year.
Bad news for the Bears party! Its over baby now you have to play with the Big Boys next year and I'll Quote Denny Green "The Bears Where Who He Thought The Were".

[BUZZMAN2333]

You can quote whoever you want .. the fact is the Bears made it to the superbowl. They did not get a free pass. They played 19 games to get there.

Rex was the quarterback too ... he won his share of games and had bad games as well. If you saw the stats, Rex had more 100+ rating games that Peyton himself.

Rex is just inconsistant right now ... that is a result of not playing in enough games. He will get better.

Griese got a chance vs. Green bay and you saw what he did .....

Lovie sees the qb's every day in practice, film and games and he chose to stay with Rex. Since I cannot be at practices, watch film etc... I am going to guess that what Lovie sees is that Rex is the best qb for the team.

Don't you think the rest of the team would have bailed on him if they did not have confidence in him?

Everyone on the team defended Rex ... offense and defense. That tells you something right there.

[Lefty Noob]

Hey, the Bears could take a page out of Baltimore's book, bring in Elvis Grbac and see how bad things can REALLY get. Grossman is no better or worse than Ben Roethlesberger at this point in his career. Both can be pretty good or really bad, and both were lousy in their respective 1st Super Bowl appearance. Grossman may yet develop into something, but getting back to Pundit's original point, I wonder about his state of mind after the loss. We'll see how mentally tough he is by how he responds to the absolute media pounding he's going to take over the next 12 months.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by BUZZMAN2333

You can quote whoever you want .. the fact is the Bears made it to the superbowl. They did not get a free pass. They played 19 games to get there.

Rex was the quarterback too ... he won his share of games and had bad games as well. If you saw the stats, Rex had more 100+ rating games that Peyton himself.

Rex is just inconsistant right now ... that is a result of not playing in enough games. He will get better.

Griese got a chance vs. Green bay and you saw what he did .....

Lovie sees the qb's every day in practice, film and games and he chose to stay with Rex. Since I cannot be at practices, watch film etc... I am going to guess that what Lovie sees is that Rex is the best qb for the team.

Don't you think the rest of the team would have bailed on him if they did not have confidence in him?

Everyone on the team defended Rex ... offense and defense. That tells you something right there.

The Bears won this year inspite of Rex not because of Rex...He had the same amount of +100 games as Peyton (I believe 7 each)...but Peyton did not have games where his rating was 0 and 1 etc...Rex got picked 20 times this year, despite a defense that seldom put him in a position to have to throw...if they did not have a good D...his rating would have been the worse in the NFL...as it is, a rating in the low 70's is no way to go through life...

PS Had I been Urlacher I would have sacked him myself to keep him from throwing it away...

[BUZZMAN2333]

Year Team G GS Att Comp Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Tkld 20+ 40+ Rate
1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 575 326 56.7 3739 6.50 78 26 28 22/109 42 8 71.2

Rex
2006 Chicago Bears 16 16 480 262 54.6 3193 6.65 62 23 20 21/142 47 8 73.9


If you compare the stats ... Rex's are better than Peytons in their first full year.

I know I can't win this arguement because I am one of the very few that still defend Rex. The stats say that the Bears should bail on him and look for another qb.

I still have a feeling that he can turn into a quality starting qb.

Time will tell!

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by BUZZMAN2333

Year Team G GS Att Comp Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Tkld 20+ 40+ Rate
1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 575 326 56.7 3739 6.50 78 26 28 22/109 42 8 71.2

Rex
2006 Chicago Bears 16 16 480 262 54.6 3193 6.65 62 23 20 21/142 47 8 73.9


If you compare the stats ... Rex's are better than Peytons in their first full year.

I know I can't win this arguement because I am one of the very few that still defend Rex. The stats say that the Bears should bail on him and look for another qb.

I still have a feeling that he can turn into a quality starting qb.

Time will tell!

Peyton as a rookie did not inherit the Bear's Defense...and had Peyton a year or two to learn (like Grossman) or a decent running game (look at Faulk's last year with the Colts, his average per carry was terrible, and edge did not arrive until 1999)...it would not even be close...

You are free to defend him all you want...I see a guy that rattles rather easy and makes poor decision under pressure...

[BUZZMAN2333]

I agree with you ...

but ... I once again attribute that to inexperience.



In 1998 Marshall Faulk made the pro bowl He rushed for 1319 yards at 4.1 per carry. He also had 86 receptions for 908 yards.

The Colts defense was terrible.