[JYRN]

FOX Sports - MLB - At last, there may be a market for Manny

[EmpireWF]

Good to hear the Mets have lost some interest. They have bigger needs at the moment.

I doubt Manny gets dealt this off-season but IF he does (one the reasons I don't think he will is he'll want extra years put on his deal, or he'll reject it), it would happen in late December. After guys like Soriano, Lee and others sign.

[MVB]

The Sox would be utter fools to get rid of Manny ( unless they were exchanging him for Soriano, Rodriguez, or Pujols). Why does Papi hit so many homers? Because pitchers don't want to walk him, and face Manny with a runner(s) on! If Manny's not there, Ortiz gets nothing to hit.... guess what? Getting rid of Manny takes two of the best bats in baseball out of the Red Sox lineup.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by MVB

The Sox would be utter fools to get rid of Manny ( unless they were exchanging him for Soriano, Rodriguez, or Pujols). Why does Papi hit so many homers? Because pitchers don't want to walk him, and face Manny with a runner(s) on! If Manny's not there, Ortiz gets nothing to hit.... guess what? Getting rid of Manny takes two of the best bats in baseball out of the Red Sox lineup.

Agreed...Manny is in part why Papi is Papi...no many, I would pitch around Big Papi for sure...

[JYRN]

Originally Posted by MVB

The Sox would be utter fools to get rid of Manny ( unless they were exchanging him for Soriano, Rodriguez, or Pujols). Why does Papi hit so many homers? Because pitchers don't want to walk him, and face Manny with a runner(s) on! If Manny's not there, Ortiz gets nothing to hit.... guess what? Getting rid of Manny takes two of the best bats in baseball out of the Red Sox lineup.

Oh dear lord no. I hope the Sox don't get pujols.

He's my favorite player on my 2nd favorite team (cardinals)

[Lefty Noob]

What if you could deal Manny and get 2 or 3 good pitchers in return. Would you pull the trigger?

[MVB]

Of course not... the Sox have a pretty good rotation setting up for '07. ( Matsuzaka, Schilling, Papelbon, Beckett, and Wakefield ) If you lose Manny, you basically lose your entire offense. No two pitchers are worth that...

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by MVB

Of course not... the Sox have a pretty good rotation setting up for '07. ( Matsuzaka, Schilling, Papelbon, Beckett, and Wakefield ) If you lose Manny, you basically lose your entire offense. No two pitchers are worth that...

I hesitate sticking my nose in here since I am not a big stats follower but I am a Sox fan so here is my 2 cents worth. Schilling is or will be 43. I gotta believe he doesn't have what he had at age 29. Papelbon is questionable because they aren't really sure he can start with any real effectiveness or how long he can last. On that one I truly hope I'm wrong. Wakefield just scares me when they bring him in. Again I'm no statisical expert.

[MVB]

Wakefield scares every Red Sox fan... And yeah, Schilling is getting old... but the Sox shouldn't trade away the heart of their lineup to get some arms. I really think Papelbon will work out, Beckett should be better then last year (he couldn't possibly get worse), Schilling will be so-so, and Matsuzaka will be an ace.

Yes the Sox could use some back-end-of-the-rotation pitchers, but they can't lose Manny and still expect to compete with the Yankees.

[MJHMarc]

I think David Ortiz is a bigger contributor than Manny Ramirez.

Truth be told, these guys don't care where they play as long as they get the money.

[MVB]

Maybe Ortiz is the bigger contributer, but without Manny, Ortiz will get nothing to hit, therefore contributing zip.

[EvanAparra]

Originally Posted by MVB

Maybe Ortiz is the bigger contributer, but without Manny, Ortiz will get nothing to hit, therefore contributing zip.

Manny is a better hitter and player than Ortiz, IMO. But I agree that without one another, they'll have OBPs of .600 but never see a thing to hit.