[russrex2424]

i think that we should add chauncey to this conversation
i mean his is only the leader on the best team in the league

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by russrex2424

i think that we should add chauncey to this conversation
i mean his is only the leader on the best team in the league

Welcome to GoTeamsGo russrex. Do you feel Chuacey has the individual stats to compete well with the big boys?...or is he a product of the team he has around him? I personally remember him in Boston and he wasn't so hot then.

[Lefty Noob]

Welcome to the boards, russrex2424. Thanks for joining us here to talk a little NBA basketball!

Billups this year is averaging 18.6 points per game, fourth in the league with 8.7 assists per game, and 3.1 rebounds per game. Statistically speaking, he's behind Nash in these categories, as well as field goal percentage and free throw percentage, but ahead in minutes and 3-point shooting percentage. I'm not convinced that he's a legitimate candidate.

[Wizard of Os]

Kobe.

All jokes and kidding aside, it's gotta be Kobe.

After hemming and hawing about the player who really crushed me with his ill behavior, the Sports Guy won me over. It's a three tiered argument: 1. flat out stats; 2. his importance to the time; and 3. the answer to the question, "which player will we remember most from 2005-06?" With games like the 81-pointer and number of awesome displays, who else will be remember for their play this season? LeBron's got far more great games ahead. Nash, okay, maybe. If the Suns take it all, but doesn't the vote happen before that? Dirk, ditto for Dallas.

Sigh. It's Kobe.

[ThePundit]

Welcome aboard Russex . I think Billups is an awesome player - definitely underrated but as Gotham said - his team is too good around him. But to talk about him in the same breath as other MVP candidates makes is not crazy at all. Actually, it's a pretty reasonable thing to do.

[russrex2424]

yea i see what you guys are saying about chauncey, i dont think he should win it but i thought he should at least have been a candidate.

You talked about how kobe has been the only person to do stuff that we will remember in the future. Yes that is true that we will remember his games but i know that i will also remember in a few years all of the game winners that lebron has had this year.

MVP = Lebron

[Lefty Noob]

Now that Philly's out of the playoffs, I really think Kobe and LeBron are the two main candidates. A.I. had a great season, but I can't see giving it to a guy who can't carry his team into the postseason. I'd like to see James win it, too... but I don't think that'll happen to tell the truth.

[wvuauthor]

I have not kept up with this thread too much, but what does everyone think about Nash repeating? Any chance?

I love his game....

[russrex2424]

nash is having a good season but i dont see him beating out lebron or kobe

[desertrat]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

I move to add him back in...they lost Wally, and everyone knows that the only leaves Pierce...so yeah, the defense is going to collapse on him all night long in the 4th quarter...Should we remove Lebron cause he has only hit one game winner this year?...Is the award now called most valueable player in the 4th quarter?...most valauble player on a well stocked team?...most valuable player on a team over .500?...feel free to correct me if I am wrong about the award now...

This logic should clinch it for Kobe then. Every night all season the defense knows Kobe is going to be the guy to stop and yet nobody can. This is the case all 4 quarters every night.

[MJHMarc]

QUESTION:
Should the MVP be a player with impressive stats?

OR

Should the MVP be a player who helps him team?

THE ANSWER=Not Allen Iverson but Elton Brand or Kobe (Somebody from LA)

[ThePundit]

MJH Mark come on over to the Elton Brand camp. Why am I the only solid Elton Brand guy out there? I think giving it to Kobe would be a travesty. I can't give it to a guy who plays 1 on 5 basketball. My voting would be this: 1) Brand 2) Lebron I wouldn't even consider voting for anyone else - maybe Nash but that's it.

[Lefty Noob]

I can't give it to a guy who plays 1 on 5 basketball.

But if he takes his team to the playoffs, isn't that the very definition of "most valuable" Pundit? I'm in no way a Kobe fan, but my MVP criteria is -- if Player A was taken off of Team B, how would that team perform? That's why I'm against Nash, because of his supporting cast, and pro Kobe, LeBron, A.I. (until recently) and, yes, Brand and Arenas to some extent too.

[ThePundit]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

But if he takes his team to the playoffs, isn't that the very definition of "most valuable" Pundit? I'm in no way a Kobe fan, but my MVP criteria is -- if Player A was taken off of Team B, how would that team perform? That's why I'm against Nash, because of his supporting cast, and pro Kobe, LeBron, A.I. (until recently) and, yes, Brand and Arenas to some extent too.

The question is: Would they have made the playoffs had he actually included his teamates more? I think they would have but the sad thing is that he's so hell bent on scoring, we'll never know.

Brand to some extent? Take Brand off that team. Do you think the Clippers make the playoffs?

[Lefty Noob]

Darn it, I wasn't clear enough, sorry. You're right, Pundit - Brand definitely is the catalyst for the Clippers success. He leads the team in points, rebounds, field goal percentage and blocks. What I mean was, I'm pro Brand and Arenas to some extent. Brand's not in my top 3, but he's 11th in the league in scoring and he's the only top 10 rebound guy to be averaging at least 24 points per game. He's also top 10 in field goal percentage. Those are very good numbers, but they're just not MVP numbers.