[yo_skinny_man]

Originally Posted by ambaer

O, by all means was he one of the greatest pitchers of this era, if by era we mean last 15 years. But if you look at what he's done in the last 2, it hasn't been much. Where did he get the Mets? I loved watching Pedro as much as the next guy, but I'm skeptical of what value he'll bring

Fair enough, but I think it's all about his health... that's what has bogged him down the last two years-- if Pedro is healthy, like he says he is, I think he could really help the Phillies-- mainly cuz they're a team that doesn't need a ton of help anyway!

[ambaer]

Originally Posted by yo_skinny_man

Fair enough, but I think it's all about his health... that's what has bogged him down the last two years-- if Pedro is healthy, like he says he is, I think he could really help the Phillies-- mainly cuz they're a team that doesn't need a ton of help anyway!

Completely agree!

[Dmaster92]

Yes well the game has changed alot, and not for the good. Player ego's have grown with their salaries. So I find getting a group of guys together that aren't constantly trying to out do eachother important. I can see something like that happening in philly especially with pedro trying to prove to the world that he is still a big name pitcher. The phillies need to slow down before they self-implode.

[kkfan91]

Originally Posted by Dmaster92

Yes well the game has changed alot, and not for the good. Player ego's have grown with their salaries. So I find getting a group of guys together that aren't constantly trying to out do eachother important. I can see something like that happening in philly especially with pedro trying to prove to the world that he is still a big name pitcher. The phillies need to slow down before they self-implode.

Centrel New York... are you a Mets fan? Because thats not the Phillies at all they are a very good working together and supportive team your makeing Pedro sound like he TO or something

[Dmaster92]

Oh no, I know better than to root for a NL east team. I'm a purebread yankee fan. I actually enjoy watching a good division race but you guys wouldn't know anything about the term ''division race''. It's ok though The Dodgers should take care of you guys in the NLCS. I'm a little offended you assumed I was a met fan (If you couldn't tell).

[yo_skinny_man]

Originally Posted by Dmaster92

Oh no, I know better than to root for a NL east team. I'm a purebread yankee fan. I actually enjoy watching a good division race but you guys wouldn't know anything about the term ''division race''. It's ok though The Dodgers should take care of you guys in the NLCS. I'm a little offended you assumed I was a met fan (If you couldn't tell).

ha ha! Must be rough to have two pro teams to choose from in your state! I'd do anything to just have one in mine!!!

[kkfan91]

Originally Posted by Dmaster92

Oh no, I know better than to root for a NL east team. I'm a purebread yankee fan. I actually enjoy watching a good division race but you guys wouldn't know anything about the term ''division race''. It's ok though The Dodgers should take care of you guys in the NLCS. I'm a little offended you assumed I was a met fan (If you couldn't tell).

No i smell repeat

[Dmaster92]

Originally Posted by yo_skinny_man

ha ha! Must be rough to have two pro teams to choose from in your state! I'd do anything to just have one in mine!!!

oh please there is only one pro baseball team in new york the mets are not playing at the big league level right now. Hens my point for kk....he plays in the weakest division in baseball. And buying pedro was his teams way of using the spoils of they're fluke world series win (over the tampa bay devil rays....who have fallen right back to the bottom of MY division a.k.a. where they belong) got them. I'll say it one last time...They are making a mistake if they grab halladay. He is not what the orginization needs at this time.

[phils phanatic]

Pedro Martinez said he was "a little rusty" but felt healthy after giving up five runs in five innings in a Triple-A rehab start on Friday.

In a press conference shortly following his exit from Lehigh Valley's 9-6 loss to Columbus, Martinez cited his discomfort with pitching from the stretch as the main cause of his troubles. Overall, he allowed only three hits, but also three walks and four earned runs in his second Minor League start, leaving

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