[Gotham Dark Knight]

I do not think MLB will ever give Rose the satisfaction of going in before he dies...

That's sad...

[bears9]

I'll take Rose, he isn't the Hit King because he was bad.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

You know what's sad...there is always the possibility of a Hall that won't have Rose, Clemens, Big Mac, Bonds, or Sosa...

...now is that really a Hall?

And if cheating is a "big deal" when it comes to the Hall...why is Gaylord Perry in there? He loaded up the baseball every chance he got...

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by bears9

I'll take Rose, he isn't the Hit King because he was bad.

So if your pastor were to kill someone would he still be a good person ??? Rules were broken. maybe to a different degree but he used his place in baseball for profit. That is a shame.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

So if your pastor were to kill someone would he still be a good person ??? Rules were broken. maybe to a different degree but he used his place in baseball for profit. That is a shame.

Ah, so when Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods get $30-$50 from Nike are they using their place in a sport for profit?...

Rose ain't no saint...never was...neither was Cobb...etc...but what do freakin writers have to do with who really belongs in the Hall? They are making a mockery out of it.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

So if your pastor were to kill someone would he still be a good person ??? Rules were broken. maybe to a different degree but he used his place in baseball for profit. That is a shame.

am i the only one that separates playing days from managing days ?

Manny can walk away tomorrow and he will be in the HOF correct ? ....... but then if he becomes a manager and cheats he should no longer be in the HOF ?

sorry i dont agree

[bears9]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

So if your pastor were to kill someone would he still be a good person ??? Rules were broken. maybe to a different degree but he used his place in baseball for profit. That is a shame.

Rose didn't do anything to change the game when he was playing. Roger Clemens most likely used steriods

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by simple simon

am i the only one that separates playing days from managing days ?

Manny can walk away tomorrow and he will be in the HOF correct ? ....... but then if he becomes a manager and cheats he should no longer be in the HOF ?

sorry i dont agree

I don't either. I'm with you here. Playing days and managing are two different careers.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Ah, so when Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods get $30-$50 from Nike are they using their place in a sport for profit?...

Rose ain't no saint...never was...neither was Cobb...etc...but what do freakin writers have to do with who really belongs in the Hall? They are making a mockery out of it.

Was it done legally ??? Did it effect the outcome of the game ??

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by bears9

Rose didn't do anything to change the game when he was playing. Roger Clemens most likely used steriods

Neither did Bill Belichick but they are crucifying him.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Phils20

I don't either. I'm with you here. Playing days and managing are two different careers.

Are there no managers in the HOF ???

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Are there no managers in the HOF ???

im sure there are ....... Casey Stengal and Sparky Anderson must be in there ...... but that's just avoiding the question

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Neither did Bill Belichick but they are crucifying him.

Do we have to go back there again? I could just pull my hair out. The world doesn't revolve around him, and this discussion has nothing to do with it.

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by simple simon

im sure there are ....... Casey Stengal and Sparky Anderson must be in there ...... but that's just avoiding the question

Very true. And they aren't in there for thier playing days, I don't think!

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Phils20

Do we have to go back there again? I could just pull my hair out. The world doesn't revolve around him, and this discussion has nothing to do with it.

NOPE ... I didn't even want to start that discussion. His name came to mind first that's all. Just wanted an example but Casey is much better. My apologies.