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Old 11-15-2007, 05:40 PM
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Hank Aaron Home Run Record

Barry Bonds has been indicted due to steroid use ..... is there any outcome here that allows Hank Aaron to regain his title as Home Run King officially ?
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:49 PM
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Barry Bonds has been indicted due to steroid use ..... is there any outcome here that allows Hank Aaron to regain his title as Home Run King officially ?

I would think and hope so.
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:56 PM
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Re: Hank Aaron Home Run Record

I doubt it. You'd have to prove Bonds was actively using steroids after they were banned by baseball. That'll be tough to do.
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:00 PM
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Re: Hank Aaron Home Run Record

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I doubt it. You'd have to prove Bonds was actively using steroids after they were banned by baseball. That'll be tough to do.
Nah, that was all due to milk..
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:06 PM
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Re: Hank Aaron Home Run Record

I've seen it done naturally, with exercise and legal supplements.
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:12 PM
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I've seen it done naturally, with exercise and legal supplements.
and did they beat the all time home run record?
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:15 PM
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No. So what? They accomplished other things athletically. Didn't have the eye to hit a baseball.
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:19 PM
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No. So what? They accomplished other things athletically. Didn't have the eye to hit a baseball.
So you think Barry did it naturally and never took steriods when they were banned?
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:27 PM
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So you think Barry did it naturally and never took steroids when they were banned?
I'm saying I can't prove that he did, so I choose not to assume guilt until it's proven with something other than circumstantial evidence.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:55 PM
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I doubt it. You'd have to prove Bonds was actively using steroids after they were banned by baseball. That'll be tough to do.
Baseball will never Open Pandora's Box...because MLB turned a blind eye on the whole league...

Why is this a Bonds thing?...It was a league wide thing...
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I doubt it. You'd have to prove Bonds was actively using steroids after they were banned by baseball. That'll be tough to do.
Come back to me Lefty, my boy.

There's so much circustancial evidence that he would even be convicted in a court of law.

To follow your logic, Scott Peterson wouldn't have been convicted because nobody saw him actually kill his wife. And that's in a court of law. Baseball's burden of proof doesn't need to be that high.

After his trial, his record is going to be taken off the books, mark my word. And it's the right thing to do.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:11 AM
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I'm saying I can't prove that he did, so I choose not to assume guilt until it's proven with something other than circumstantial evidence.
Congratulations on being able to separate fact from fiction. Unfortunately most people look at sports in general and see this type of abuse and along with the record being broken and the massive body change in Bonds, many just assume guilt. Are they wrong ??? Only a few know for sure. I'll admit that I am one of the ones who looks at him as guilty. There are far to many circumstantial issues that point in the wrong direction as he proclaims innocence. I could be wrong though.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:22 AM
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Re: Hank Aaron Home Run Record

I think the basis of the indictment is based on documents siezed in the BALCO raid. Those documents showed positive steroid test in 2000 and 2001.

The question is not if or when he may have used steroids but the fact that he commited perjury and is guilty of obstruction of justice. He cut a deal with the grand jury - then lied.

"The 10-page indictment mainly consists of excerpts from Bonds' December 2003 testimony before a grand jury investigating the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative, or BALCO. It cites 19 occasions in which Bonds allegedly lied under oath."

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Re: Hank Aaron Home Run Record

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I've seen it done naturally, with exercise and legal supplements.
By 35 year old men if Bonds did this at age 28 I would give the benifit of doubt but he was 35!
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Re: Hank Aaron Home Run Record

As a rookie

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