[StigRoarHusby]

When one looks back on the first five players named to the HOF (T. Cobb, B. Ruth, H. Wagner, C. Mathewson & W. Johnson), it's quite obvious that these were no-brainer inductees.

If a player's not an obvious choice to everybody, then maybe they don't belong. (And, yes, players like Josh Gibson, Satchel Paige, Oscar Charleston, Sadaharu Oh and Martin Dihigo are no-brainers, as well.)

And I love Bill Mazeroski...but if he's in, then so is Bobby Grich.

Rick Ferrell?.....Put in Jim Sundberg.

Morgan G. Bulkeley?.....Elect my grandmother.

In the interest of being purely provocative , I'm all for retroactive trimming of HOF fat. Maybe GoTeamsGo can name its own Total Hall of Fame...meaning players who have practically ZERO objection from any sane person on this forum. Whaddya say?

Maybe through some ongoing debate, we'll surprise ourselves with the kind of criteria that fits.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by StigRoarHusby

When one looks back on the first five players named to the HOF (T. Cobb, B. Ruth, H. Wagner, C. Mathewson & W. Johnson), it's quite obvious that these were no-brainer inductees.

If a player's not an obvious choice to everybody, then maybe they don't belong. (And, yes, players like Josh Gibson, Satchel Paige, Oscar Charleston, Sadaharu Oh and Martin Dihigo are no-brainers, as well.)

And I love Bill Mazeroski...but if he's in, then so is Bobby Grich.

Wes Ferrell?.....Put in Jim Sundberg.

Morgan G. Bulkeley?.....Elect my grandmother.

In the interest of being purely provocative , I'm all for retroactive trimming of HOF fat. Maybe GoTeamsGo can name its own Total Hall of Fame...meaning players who have practically ZERO objection from any sane person on this forum. Whaddya say?

Maybe through some ongoing debate, we'll surprise ourselves with the kind of criteria that fits.

I am sure I can pt forth a better candiate than "my grandmother"

[StigRoarHusby]

Re: I am sure I can pt forth a better candiate than "my grandmother"


Well, so could all of us....but it wouldn't be Morgan Bulkeley.

[legend]

Mazeroski shouldn't be in the Hall. He hit .260 with 800 something RBI and won a bunch of Gold Gloves.
He is in because of one home run.
Roger Maris hit .260 with 800 something RBI, won 2 MVP Awards, 2 RBI titles, and broke the most cherished record in all of sports. He is not in the Hall. He is not in because of one home run.
Interesting.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by legend

Mazeroski shouldn't be in the Hall. He hit .260 with 800 something RBI and won a bunch of Gold Gloves.
He is in because of one home run.
Roger Maris hit .260 with 800 something RBI, won 2 MVP Awards, 2 RBI titles, and broke the most cherished record in all of sports. He is not in the Hall. He is not in because of one home run.
Interesting.

I think Maris should be in, but I would, though Dale Murphy is also a 2 time MVP, multi gold glover with better lifetime stats that is not in... But Maz is not in for the 1960's homer, he is in for his glove....there is no written rule that says you have to be great all around.

[ThePundit]

You can't compare stats anymore. For instance, Graig Nettles won the HR title in 1976 with 32 Homers. If he were playing today that would have been 52. You just have to forget the numbers and ask was this guy a great player? Or a very, very, very good player and maybe had major accomplishment or 2. Example: Roger Maris is a HOF in my opinion because he broke that record plus he was a very, very good player. Same thing with Puckett. Didn't have HOF numbers but he was great in the big game.