[Neopet_Girl]

Okay. Don’t laugh. This is my serious attempt to fit in and write a sport’s thread thingy.

I like to say that I think the Japanese hitter Ichiro is much, much, much better than that old hack George Sisler (I looked this up!) who use to hold the record for most hits in a season.

See, the way I see it, they had really tiny gloves back in the stone age when the Sisler guy played (or Gorgeous George as he was called –though really, some ego he had, he is no Carlos Beltran), and the gloves let a lot of hits go by. So when Sisler got 257 hits (I looked that up too!), it was probably more like 200 or maybe like 220. But when Ichiro broke the record, he played against guys with big gloves (I was going to say something not nice –but I didn’t), so he really got more legit hits.

So Ichiro should be put into the Hall of Fame and the Sisler guy should be thrown out!

There. That’s what I think!

[simple simon]

well Neo im glad youre feeling comfortable enough to start threads ...... its what keeps us going

but im afraid on this thread we wont see eye to eye

you say inferior equipment may have inflated Sisler's #'s ....... well that may be true ....... but i submit to you that the league has grown so much since then that watered down pitching and fielding have inflated Ichiro's #'s

[Gotham Dark Knight]

I am sure there is a site someone has that compares apples to apples by having a weight scale for the different eras...

While pitching may be watered down now...I would think the small parks as well as the rise of the specialty pitchers would make it a bit harder to get a hit now as well...

...and once upon a time, before Sisler's era, I think walks counted as hits as well...not sure of the decade but it can be looked up.

Sisler though was a consistent hitter...and two time .400 hitter...hardly worthy of the word "suck"...

Though the notion of a limited Hall of Fame in which you can knock out one guy to put another one in, is appealing...

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Though the notion of a limited Hall of Fame in which you can knock out one guy to put another one in, is appealing...

like when we knock you out of the GTG Hall of Fame to make room for me or Marc

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by simple simon

like when we knock you out of the GTG Hall of Fame to make room for me or Marc

I would take the lesser of two evils and go with you...barely...

[Neopet_Girl]

Oh! Ooops. Okay, like I don't know about the whole pitching thing. I got to go look that up somewhere (LOL).

And I used the word "Sucks" because it went with "Rocks." I am sure that Mr. Sisler did not suck in a baseball sense, sorry.

Still, how could they catch a ball in that tiny glove? You know? Have either of you played with a small glove? Then how do you know that is not why George got so many hits? Huh?

(Pink is a cool color!)

[MJHMarc]

Originally Posted by simple simon

well Neo im glad youre feeling comfortable enough to start threads ...... its what keeps us going

but im afraid on this thread we wont see eye to eye

you say inferior equipment may have inflated Sisler's #'s ....... well that may be true ....... but i submit to you that the league has grown so much since then that watered down pitching and fielding have inflated Ichiro's #'s

For your knowledge, Simple Simon is a die-hard Red Sox fan.

[MJHMarc]

Originally Posted by simple simon

like when we knock you out of the GTG Hall of Fame to make room for me or Marc

Thanks for the support.

Lets start a slave rebellion, Sparticus.

[MJHMarc]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

I would take the lesser of two evils and go with you...barely...

I'll remember that!

[MJHMarc]

Originally Posted by Neopet_Girl

Oh! Ooops. Okay, like I don't know about the whole pitching thing. I got to go look that up somewhere (LOL).

And I used the word "Sucks" because it went with "Rocks." I am sure that Mr. Sisler did not suck in a baseball sense, sorry.

Still, how could they catch a ball in that tiny glove? You know? Have either of you played with a small glove? Then how do you know that is not why George got so many hits? Huh?

(Pink is a cool color!)

As a few users already stated, it is difficult to compare different athletes from different time periods. There are many factors that play into the equation, thus making the answer virtually impossible to figure out. Especially, when one has been dead for quite some time.

Sisler was inducted in the Hall before Ichiro came to America.

You cannot remove people from the Hall of Fame just because his records were broken. In that case, Barry Bonds would be in and Roger Maris would be kicked out. However, that was a poor analogy since Roger Maris was never voted into the Hall of Fame. But, you should understand my concepts.

[Neopet_Girl]

Originally Posted by MJHMarc

As a few users already stated, it is difficult to compare different athletes from different time periods.

Don't people compare them all the time Marc? Some people say the George Ruth is better than the new guy who has more homeruns. Barry Bonds I think? How come they compare them?

Originally Posted by MJHMarc

There are many factors that play into the equation, thus making the answer virtually impossible to figure out. Especially, when one has been dead for quite some time.

George Sisler is dead? Oops sorry, I said he sucks. That's disrepectful!

Sisler was inducted in the Hall before Ichiro came to America.

Originally Posted by MJHMarc

You cannot remove people from the Hall of Fame just because his records were broken. In that case, Barry Bonds would be in and Roger Maris would be kicked out. However, that was a poor analogy since Roger Maris was never voted into the Hall of Fame. But, you should understand my concepts.

Why can't you remove them? You can say, "look you were great once, but someone is greater and we need the room." And what happen to Maris? Did he make people mad or something?

[legend]

In Sisler's day, the ball was not as "juiced" as it is now and a ball was used over and over again until it was fouled into the stands or no longer any good.

[Neopet_Girl]

Originally Posted by legend

In Sisler's day, the ball was not as "juiced" as it is now and a ball was used over and over again until it was fouled into the stands or no longer any good.

Wouldn't an icky ball be harder to catch? Maybe the small gloves and icky ball were the reasons he got so many hits? Maybe no?

[MJHMarc]

Maris wasn't liked.

Comparisons exist because journalists have nothing else better to write about.

[simple simon]

and without them we wouldnt have talk radio or sports forums