[vincesanity82]

Originally Posted by MVB

True. I suspect that the player at third must have been a very smart base-runner, and he must have caught the shortstop off guard.

that makes sense too..

[azrael492]

I have a question that has bothered me a long time. When a pitcher is warming up, what does it mean when he waves his gloved hand before he throws. Every pitcher I have watched does it, and I can find no logical reason.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by azrael492

I have a question that has bothered me a long time. When a pitcher is warming up, what does it mean when he waves his gloved hand before he throws. Every pitcher I have watched does it, and I can find no logical reason.

the only thing i can think of is to make sure the catcher is ready ........ since it is only warming up the catcher may not be paying attention 100%

[simple simon]

i have a question

many times you see what may appear to be a check swing and the catcher will appeal to the 3rd base umpire (or 1st base if the batter is on the other side) ..... sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt

my question is whether or not the batter ever makes such appeals if the home plate ump says he swung and he feels he didnt, though i imagine no ump would overturn the one at home on something like that

[Tuck4Bama]

The umpire behind the plate is the boss, the only reason he will apeal to first or second base is pretty much a coutesy to the cathcer since the first base umpire has a clear view for right handed batters and third base for a left handed batter. The home plate umppire is so focused on the location of the ball when it crosses the plat he may not see it the batter breaks the plane.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Tuck4Bama

The umpire behind the plate is the boss, the only reason he will apeal to first or second base is pretty much a coutesy to the cathcer since the first base umpire has a clear view for right handed batters and third base for a left handed batter. The home plate umppire is so focused on the location of the ball when it crosses the plat he may not see it the batter breaks the plane.

yeah i know, just wondering if the catcher can appeal why not the batter ? seems fair

[Tuck4Bama]

(c) The manager or the catcher may request the plate umpire to ask his partner for help on a half swing when the plate umpire calls the pitch a ball, but not when the pitch is called a strike. The manager may not complain that the umpire made an improper call, but only that he did not ask his partner for help. Field umpires must be alerted to the request from the plate umpire and quickly respond. Managers may not protest the call of a ball or strike on the pretense they are asking for information about a half swing. Appeals on a half swing may be made only on the call of ball and when asked to appeal, the home plate umpire must refer to a base umpire for his judgment on the half swing. Should the base umpire call the pitch a strike, the strike call shall prevail. Baserunners must be alert to the possibility that the base umpire on appeal from the plate umpire may reverse the call of a ball to the call of a strike, in which event the runner is in jeopardy of being out by the catcher's throw. Also, a catcher must be alert in a base stealing situation if a ball call is reversed to a strike by the base umpire upon appeal from the plate umpire. The ball is in play on appeal on a half swing. On a half swing, if the manager comes out to argue with first or third base umpire and if after being warned he persists in arguing, he can be ejected as he is now arguing over a called ball or strike.

[simple simon]

excellent find there Tuck, exactly what i wanted to know

Originally Posted by Tuck4Bama

Appeals on a half swing may be made only on the call of ball

but thats a load of crap right there

[Bette]

This has been keeping me awake nights.
Years ago, for the Braves, there was Warren Spahn, Eddie Matthews, Hank Aaron, and wasnt there a shortstop named Johnny something???? Or do I have the wrong sport?

[Tuck4Bama]

FAST FACTS

Full Name: Edwin Lee Mathews

Born: October 13, 1931

Died: February 18, 2001

Height: 6'1"

Weight: 190 pounds

Batted: Left

Threw: Right

Position: Third Base

Jersey number: 41 (1952-1966 with Boston Braves, Atlanta Braves, Milwaukee Braves), 11 (1967 with Houston Astros), 7 (1967-1968 with Detroit Tigers)

ACHIEVEMENTS

Played 15 years for the Braves organization. He was the only player to have played for the Braves in Boston, Milwaukee, and Atlanta.

Played with the legendary Hank Aaron. The two combined to be the greatest pair of home run hitters ever. Mathews hit 512 and Aaron hit 755. Their combined total beat the total of Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig by 60.

Hit 25 home runs during his rookie season, breaking the rookie record.

Hit at least 30 home runs for each of nine straight years from 1953 to 1960.

During his 17 years, he only hit under 20 home runs 3 times.

Won two National League home run titles (1953 & 1959).

Led the National League in walks four times.

Had a career batting average of .271.

Elected to the Hall of Fame in 1978 as the greatest hitting third baseman of all time.

Featured on the first Sports Illustrated cover on August 16, 1954. He also appeared on the cover of the June 2, 1958 issue and the 40th Anniversary issue on August 16, 1994.

1965 Milwaukee Braves Statistics and Roster - Baseball-Reference.com

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Bette

This has been keeping me awake nights.
Years ago, for the Braves, there was Warren Spahn, Eddie Matthews, Hank Aaron, and wasnt there a shortstop named Johnny something???? Or do I have the wrong sport?

Johnny Logan was the shortstop alongside Matthews for his first nine seasons.
Johnny Logan Statistics - Baseball-Reference.com

[Bette]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Johnny Logan was the shortstop alongside Matthews for his first nine seasons.
Johnny Logan Statistics - Baseball-Reference.com

Aah, Johnny Logan. That was the one. Now I can sleep tonight. I have all the stats on Matthews and I know the shortstop's name.
Thank you gentlemen.

[simple simon]

are stats recorded the same for the All Star game ? ........ meaning if Bonds hits a HR during the game does it go towards his career total ? or do hits in the game go to career totals ...... how about season totals ?

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by simple simon

are stats recorded the same for the All Star game ? ........ meaning if Bonds hits a HR during the game does it go towards his career total ? or do hits in the game go to career totals ...... how about season totals ?

No to both. The All-Star Game is not an "official" game in terms of statistics or record keeping.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

No to both. The All-Star Game is not an "official" game in terms of statistics or record keeping.

thats a thought i had but i wasnt sure ....... and im glad its that way, i wish it still didnt count at all ....... the fondest All Star game moment i have is when Randy Johnson threw behind Larry Walker ........ too bad we can never see something like that again

seems now the game could be so tense, if someone is plunked there could be a brawl ......... do players care about League members that much to brawl for them if they get HBP ? ...... Selig would be so embarrassed, it would be great