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Old 11-27-2006, 08:45 PM
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HOF Ballot Out Today

Players on 2007 ballot:
• Harold Baines
• Albert Belle
• Dante Bichette
• Bert Blyleven
• Bobby Bonilla
• Scott Brosius
• Jay Buhner
• Ken Caminiti
• Jose Canseco
• Dave Concepcion
• Eric Davis
• Andre Dawson
• Tony Fernandez
• Steve Garvey
• Rich Gossage
• Tony Gwynn
• Orel Hershiser
• Tommy John
• Wally Joyner
• Don Mattingly
• Mark McGwire
• Jack Morris
• Dale Murphy
• Paul O'Neill
• Dave Parker
• Jim Rice
• Cal Ripken Jr.
• Bret Saberhagen
• Lee Smith
• Alan Trammell
• Devon White
• Bobby Witt

there's the list of available choices from ESPN.com

who should get in ?
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Old 11-27-2006, 08:50 PM
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Re: HOF Ballot Out Today

The interesting guy will be McGwire. I don't think he makes it soon...it will take him at least three years IMO.

But the locks are of course Cal Ripken Jr. and Tony Gwynn.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:01 PM
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Re: HOF Ballot Out Today

PAUL O'NEIL!!!

Sorry... big fan of the guy.

Let's see, I think Rich Gossage, Tony Gwynn, Cal Ripken Jr, and Orel Hershiser would be my top choices.

I'd like to see Tommy John be let in... he's been on the ballot for 13 years!
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:37 PM
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Re: HOF Ballot Out Today

Paul O' Neil, Goose Gossage, Tony Gwynn, Mark McGwire, Cal Ripken Jr would be my picks
I always give a shout out to Jim Rice but he never sneaks in
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:11 PM
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Re: HOF Ballot Out Today

Harold Baines -No, but will get 50%
• Albert Belle -No, but one of the best of the 90's
• Dante Bichette -not in a million years
• Bert Blyleven -Should be in...but wo9n't make it...just look at those CG and Shutouts to g owith the wins and K's all for middle of the road teams

• Bobby Bonilla -No, Baines and Belle were better
• Scott Brosius -Ha, Ha, Ha
• Jay Buhner -Its not called the Hall of Good
• Ken Caminiti -Steroid Hall of Fame maybe
• Jose Canseco -No, but he makes the Latin Hall of Fame easy
• Dave Concepcion -Only Ozzie can make it based on jsut the glove
• Eric Davis -What could have been
• Andre Dawson -Should, but won't will get at least 50%
• Tony Fernandez -Who are we kidding
• Steve Garvey -Should...solid, solid stats, clutch hitter, good glove...but won't.
• Rich Gossage -Should
• Tony Gwynn -First Ballot Hall of Famer
• Orel Hershiser no...but what a 1988 he had...
• Tommy John Not before Blyeleven
• Wally Joyner -Wally World, one of my all time favs...but no
• Don Mattingly -Toss Up...
• Mark McGwire Yes
• Jack Morris Not before Blyeleven
• Dale Murphy Should, but he has been dropping in total votes lately
• Paul O'Neill Oh please...spare me...he is not a Haller...
• Dave Parker Better player then O'Neill...That throw in the All_Star game...classic
• Jim Rice About as good a chance as Parker...
• Cal Ripken Jr. -First Ballot Hall of Famer
• Bret Saberhagen -only good every other year, but a few Cy Youngs
• Lee Smith -Never
• Alan Trammell -So Close...and yet so far...
• Devon White Only if he buys the ticket...
• Bobby Witt Why is he on the list?
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Old 11-27-2006, 11:04 PM
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Re: HOF Ballot Out Today

Here is who should get in- Blyleven, Dawson,Garvey, Gossage, Gwynn, John, McGuire, Parker, Morris, Rice, and Ripken. Here's who will- Gwynn and Ripken, maybe Gossage.
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Re: HOF Ballot Out Today

Gwynn and Ripken are the only locks. MLB definitely needs to start showing some love to Blylevin, Goose, Rice and Murphy. Big Mac will give us a good idea of how important the steroid issue really is to these voters. I think he gets in.
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Gwynn and Ripken are the only locks. MLB definitely needs to start showing some love to Blylevin, Goose, Rice and Murphy. Big Mac will give us a good idea of how important the steroid issue really is to these voters. I think he gets in.
Of course Mac gets in...if not where is the line...what criteria do you use?...he wasn't caught, wasn't banned for anything...and people like Gaylord Perry and Whitey Ford are in...Whitey use to love to nick the baseball with his wedding ring late in his career...but hey, they are a "colorful part of the game"...

Keep Mac out?...might as well say no players beyond 1990 allowed in for the most part...because you really can't seperate the did from the did nots...and baseball chose to ignore it all...

But hey, its in the hands of the freakin writers to up hold the non exsiting and terribly bias standards of the Hall...so...we will see...
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• Scott Brosius -Ha, Ha, Ha
Yeah that made me laugh out loud, too.
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Yeah that made me laugh out loud, too.
Hey guys why are you ganging up on poor old Scott for? He was an integral part of the Yankees dynasty, a clutch preformer and playoff wizard. Not to mention one of the best 3B at the time. Its a little bit of a stretch maybe but I wouldnt say I would laugh at it
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Re: HOF Ballot Out Today

Yeah, what's with the attacks on Brosius? I think he is a borderline Hall of Famer. One who doesn't stand a chance this time around, but might get in in a couple of years.

Scott Brosius stats:

11 years in the majors
141 homers
153 RBI
200 doubles
1,001 hits
544 runs

His postseason numbers aren't too shabby ( 8 HRs, 30 RBI in 12 series) and was named the World Series MVP in '98. He's a Gold Glove winner and an All Star.

Not the best, but still pretty good. Has a shot at the Hall...
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Yeah, what's with the attacks on Brosius? I think he is a borderline Hall of Famer. One who doesn't stand a chance this time around, but might get in in a couple of years.

Scott Brosius stats:

11 years in the majors
141 homers
153 RBI
200 doubles
1,001 hits
544 runs

His postseason numbers aren't too shabby ( 8 HRs, 30 RBI in 12 series) and was named the World Series MVP in '98. He's a Gold Glove winner and an All Star.

Not the best, but still pretty good. Has a shot at the Hall...
You are kidding right?...If he gets in, it becomes the "Hall of average players who have stayed around for 10 plus years..." which makes it way to long a name.

There are Hall of Famers, then there are Superstars, then Stars, then Semi stars...then, and only then Scott Brosius...not even superman can make that big a leap...
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I think Bobby Witt and Devon White are automatic.
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I think Bobby Witt and Devon White are automatic.
Yes, but who will get the 100% vote from the writers of the two?...My money is on White.
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Yeah, what's with the attacks on Brosius? I think he is a borderline Hall of Famer. One who doesn't stand a chance this time around, but might get in in a couple of years.

Scott Brosius stats:

11 years in the majors
141 homers
153 RBI
200 doubles
1,001 hits
544 runs

His postseason numbers aren't too shabby ( 8 HRs, 30 RBI in 12 series) and was named the World Series MVP in '98. He's a Gold Glove winner and an All Star.

Not the best, but still pretty good. Has a shot at the Hall...
Brosius has no shot.

At no time in his career was he EVER considered one of the best 3B in the game.

His stats are alright but nothing special, especially nothing worthy of the HOF.

Barely has over 1000 hits.
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