[azrael492]

This award is always controversial, no matter who wins it. The bottom line is it should be voted on by the players and managers, with them not being able to vote for their won teammates and players, not by writers with agendas.

I could not agree more. As long as they can't vote for their own team, I think the players would be able to determine the MVP better than people that only watch.

On a side note: I know Hafner was hurt at the end of the season, but how does he not even get mentioned with the year he had. I didn't see him winning because Jeter should have, but he should have gotten more votes than he did.

[simple simon]

ok, there is no bigger fan of the Red Sox then me, and i do believe that Ortiz (or any DH) can win an MVP, just not this year

by the end of the year, for some writers Ortiz had 4 strikes against him

he's 95% or more DH
the Sox didnt make the play-offs
he shot his mouth off at the end
he was injured near the end

any one or maybe even 2 of those and he could still have a chance to win, add them all up and there is no way

but i also agree with Kieth Olbermen on ESPN Radio, its so hard for writers to vote for MVP........they hardly see people that dont play for their team

they can do research and check out players but out of 162 games how many did they see of the top 5 contenders ?

there must be a better way

[MJHMarc]

Personally, I think they should let the fans vote as well as these sportswriters.

Average in the numbers and there is the MVP!

[MVB]

Maybe they could give the award away based on math? Come up with some MVP formula? Like win shares or runs prevented+/- runs driven in? That way, if a DH provided a ton of offense, he could eliminate the lack of defensive points, and win the award.

But that would take all the suspense away...

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by simple simon

there must be a better way

Managers should vote. They are guaranteed to see Ortiz, Jeter, et. al. at least a couple of times each year, which is more than you can say for some of the writers who cast ballots. The only rule should be that you can't vote for your own guy.

[MJHMarc]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Managers should vote. They are guaranteed to see Ortiz, Jeter, et. al. at least a couple of times each year, which is more than you can say for some of the writers who cast ballots. The only rule should be that you can't vote for your own guy.

I think the managers would vote for players on their team. Unless they make a rule where you aren't allowed to vote for athletes in your organization.