[EmpireWF]

Who do you vote for in the AL Manager of the Year voting?

I can't help but vote for Ron Gardenhire. They got off to a slow start and slowly built their way back into the playoff race. They passed by the defending World Series Champs and could still win the division.

[Lefty Noob]

It's got to be Leyland. I respect the job Gardenhire has done, but the Twins have been playoff contenders for years now. They have a lot of talent, including the hands-down Cy Young winner and two MVP candidates. Leyland's Tigers could well win the AL Central with what looks to be, on paper, a far inferior roster. Look at what they've done with other managers in the past few years. Leyland is the AL Manager of the Year in a LANDSLIDE!

[MVB]

Gardenhire performed a miracle this season. He has to be the winner...

[MJHMarc]

Joe Torre.

This guy was almost thrown out the door but earned Steinbrenner's nod just in time to finish up the season.

[EmpireWF]

Originally Posted by MJHMarc

Joe Torre.

This guy was almost thrown out the door but earned Steinbrenner's nod just in time to finish up the season.

LOL

Isn't that every year?

[MJHMarc]

Nobody in the Yankees' organization has job security under Steinbrenner.

[MVB]

Leyland's team just lost their division title... Gardenhire has the award wrapped up...

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Leyland is the AL Manager of the Year in a LANDSLIDE!

i agree totally

what he did with a team id say most no one else wanted was amazing

[Lefty Noob]

Yeesh, I can't believe you guys! The Twins have a pitcher who is favored to win the Cy Young Award in Santana. They have two guys, Mauer and Morineau (sp?), who have been discussed as possible MVP candidates at different points in the season. Leyland took over a club that was horrific in 2005 and turned them into a playoff team.

So they didn't win the division? What he did with what he had is still FAR more impressive than what Gardenhire did with the talent level he had. If you don't believe me, go back and look at the http://www.goteamsgo.com/forum/detro...ifference.html and http://www.goteamsgo.com/forum/detro...anager-of.html threads for reference. Leyland is the Manager of the Year, Gardenhire a not-too-close second. No doubt about it.

[Lefty Noob]

Thank you, simon - nice to have another voice of reason around here!

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Thank you, simon - nice to have another voice of reason around here!

im always the voice of reason, just everyone doesnt always hear it


as for Torre, a vote for him is a joke

need i remind you:

Damon
Giambi
A-Rod
Jeter
Posada
Cano
Sheffield
Matsui (yes i know he was hurt some)
Johnson
Mussina
Rivera
Wang (getting the nod for game 1)

with all of that just where were they supposed to finish ?

tied with Tampa Bay ?

[EmpireWF]

Originally Posted by MVB

Leyland's team just lost their division title... Gardenhire has the award wrapped up...

I'd agree. The Tigers collapse and Twins resurgence should wrap the award up for Gardenhire.

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by EmpireWF

I'd agree. The Tigers collapse and Twins resurgence should wrap the award up for Gardenhire.

Only if people decided to vote based solely on what happened in the final month of the season. Last time I checked, they've been playing since April, and the Tigers came in with far lower expectations for the season than the Twins did, and - sounding like a broken record here, but... - a guy CANNOT be manager of the year with the kind of talent Gardenhire has, namely the best pitcher in baseball and probably two of the top 10 guys in the MVP voting!

[MVB]

Only if people decided to vote based solely on what happened in the final month of the season.

Sometimes (actually, most of the time) the last month is the most important one.

[EmpireWF]

Why is it the manager's fault what kind of talent he has? People think it's easy to control and manage a bunch of all-stars. It isn't. Torre, especially, has to manage all those ego's and keep everyone in check.