[Bette]

Samari Rolle referred to Steve McNair as HOF timber.
There is no doubt McNair is the consummate NFL warrior. There is no question about his heart as he played thru injury after injury with taped and numb body parts for 13 seasons.
But getting into Canton will be an uphill battle. The list of latter day quarterbacks who have made it into the Hall but not led their team to a Super Bowl, or NFL or AFL championship is short.
He will be considered because of a rare statistical distinction. He is 1 of 3 quarterbacks to pass for 30000 yards and rush for 3500. The other two are Steve Young and Fran Tarkenton.
During his heyday at Tennessee, he often dragged the team down the field on sheer will power alone.
Except for that 1 yard that snatched victory from the Titans agains the Rams in January 2000, HOF status wouldnt be nearly the challenge it is.
To be judged fairly, electors for the HOF must include not only titles, yards and tds, but how big the heart.

McNair courageous, but Hall will be tough call -- baltimoresun.com

McNair's heart was huge. I cant express my admiration for this guy enough. His arm was almost as big.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

No way in heck this guy is Hall of Fame Material...I would sooner have Bernie Kosar in there or Don Meredith or 20 other more worthy guys who are also not of Hall quality...heck, give me Randall Cunningham over him if you want a running/throwing QB.

[Phils20]

He was a very good QB, and I was a fan of his, but I can't see the HOF for him.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Phils20

He was a very good QB, and I was a fan of his, but I can't see the HOF for him.

Yep...I mean I still got like 30 McNair rookie cards and a bunch of other McNair stuff, I would be tickled pink if he made it...but he doesn't belong.

[simple simon]

he does belong in the HOF ...... he is one of a kind at the position ... he is a QB made from the Nitschke - Butkus mold

[Bette]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

No way in heck this guy is Hall of Fame Material...I would sooner have Bernie Kosar in there or Don Meredith or 20 other more worthy guys who are also not of Hall quality...heck, give me Randall Cunningham over him if you want a running/throwing QB.

I dont necessarily want a running quarterback. McNair didnt have much choice. He's three times the qb Cunningham was.

Originally Posted by simple simon

he does belong in the HOF ...... he is one of a kind at the position ... he is a QB made from the Nitschke - Butkus mold

I am with you on the one of a kind at his position. Unfortunately, there is no way to measure heart, and so he doesnt belong in the HOF. Wish he did though.

[azrael492]

I don't think he belongs there either, but one thing that will keep people talking is the fact that he threw for over 31000 yards without a big time receiver.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Bette

I dont necessarily want a running quarterback. McNair didnt have much choice. He's three times the qb Cunningham was.

I am with you on the one of a kind at his position. Unfortunately, there is no way to measure heart, and so he doesnt belong in the HOF. Wish he did though.

Oh please...no way he was three times the QB...Cunningham played most of the time without a line...and still compiled a career equal too if not better than McNair...he was a four time Pro-Bowler who lead the league in getting sacked 5 times!...a tribute to his sucky line...and the dude could even punt...having punts of 91 and 80 yarders...so here was a guy who could out run McNair, had a cannon for an arm, a QB rating of only 1 point less...lead the league in passing while at Minnesota...Pro Bowler three years in a row at Philly...threw for over 30 Tds with two different teams and could punt...every other player on the field being equal give me Randall over McNair any day...and twice on Sunday.

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Bette

I dont necessarily want a running quarterback. McNair didnt have much choice. He's three times the qb Cunningham was.

As someone who repeatedly watched Cunningham single-handedly dismantle the Giants while with the Eagles, I respectfully disagree.

Originally Posted by azrael492

I don't think he belongs there either, but one thing that will keep people talking is the fact that he threw for over 31000 yards without a big time receiver.

Just curious, how do his receiving corps compare to some other QBs with similar yardage numbers, like the aforementioned DeBerg?

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

As someone who repeatedly watched Cunningham single-handedly dismantle the Giants while with the Eagles, I respectfully disagree.



Just curious, how do his receiving corps compare to some other QBs with similar yardage numbers, like the aforementioned DeBerg?

Well that is a valid point...McNair did do it with crappy receivers...Deberg had little in San Fran, better at Tampa Bay, and I think a good corp at K.C...so, yeah, who did McNair really have?

[azrael492]

After taking a look at the Titans old roster, they didn't have superstars, but they weren't bums either. He had Drew Bennett at WR and Frank Wycheck at TE.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by azrael492

After taking a look at the Titans old roster, they didn't have superstars, but they weren't bums either. He had Drew Bennett at WR and Frank Wycheck at TE.

Bennett was good but didn't he have his great year with Volek throwing to him?

[Bette]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Oh please...no way he was three times the QB...Cunningham played most of the time without a line...and still compiled a career equal too if not better than McNair...he was a four time Pro-Bowler who lead the league in getting sacked 5 times!...a tribute to his sucky line...and the dude could even punt...having punts of 91 and 80 yarders...so here was a guy who could out run McNair, had a cannon for an arm, a QB rating of only 1 point less...lead the league in passing while at Minnesota...Pro Bowler three years in a row at Philly...threw for over 30 Tds with two different teams and could punt...every other player on the field being equal give me Randall over McNair any day...and twice on Sunday.

Ok, maybe 3 times was a little bitty exaggeration. BUT--didnt watch much then but if McNair was running so much, his line couldnt have been so hot either.
McNair had quite the cannon for an arm also. Thus, the nickname, Air McNair.
So Cunningham could punt--we are talking about quarterbacks, not punters. Next thing you know, we will be putting kickers at the same level.
All things being equal, and both quarterbacks at the top of their game, I think it would be a pretty tough call.
That said, I am a Randall Cunningham fan also.

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

As someone who repeatedly watched Cunningham single-handedly dismantle the Giants while with the Eagles, I respectfully disagree.

One game does not a quarterback make. But he dismantled more than one team. Still, Cunningham was the prototype for the running quarterbacks of today. Dont think the defenses knew how to cope with them then.

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by azrael492

After taking a look at the Titans old roster, they didn't have superstars, but they weren't bums either. He had Drew Bennett at WR and Frank Wycheck at TE.

More likely to make the Hall of Fame... McNair or Wycheck? Without looking at numbers, I'd have to go with the tight end.

[azrael492]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

More likely to make the Hall of Fame... McNair or Wycheck? Without looking at numbers, I'd have to go with the tight end.

If it is between the two, I have to go with McNair. If I remember, Wycheck is always hurt. I could be wrong. I don't follow them that close.