[cjg11582]

This guy looks like an absolute stud when he gets playing time. A prototypical quarterback is apparently what Mora is looking for and I think it is public and front office pressure that he never started over Vick. Was it the new Jets coach who made a move to get him out of Atlanta recently and failed?
Don't get me wrong, I would rather have Vick, but in the right offensive setting, not out of the west coast formation.
So is this guy wasting away as Vicks backup? They are relatively close in age and if he stays in Atlanta he will be second string as long as Vick is healthy. Would you guys want Schaub on your team? Am I overrating a backup QB? Any thoughts in general as to what The Falcons should do with him?

[Lefty Noob]

No, I'm as high on him as you are. Vick is a phenomenal athlete, but Schaub runs the offense better and - dare I say it? - I think he gives them a better chance of winning games by playing within the scheme. True, Vick can create a lot with his legs, but his decision making as a QB has been atrocious throughout his career. Half of being an exciting player like Vick is that unpredictability factor... when will doing something stupid work out of sheer athleticism and when will it blow up in your face?

[cjg11582]

I really want to see him start for someone else. What I cannot understand is how Phillip Rivers got all the praise and accolades (high draft pick, enormous contract) while Schaub, who traditionally outplayed Rivers in the ACC, had to settle for a third round pick, what is probably the league minimum and live in virtual obscurity backing up Mike Vick. Its not like Schaub is Doug Flutie, he is 6'5. So what gives?

[Lefty Noob]

The Draft is always such a crapshoot, but Schaub's getting the attention now as there have been a lot of suitors for his services during this offseason. What stuns me is that he hasn't been moved yet. Jets are out now, I would assume. Perhaps, if Favre doesn't come back, he could win up in Green Bay and competing with Rodgers for the starting job there.

[cjg11582]

My estimation is that Atlanta realizes what they have in Matt Schaub and are not willing to part with him. Not for the terrible offers NFL teams propose trades with.

[Lefty Noob]

I know they want a first rounder for him, and that the best the Jets could offer was a #2, so perhaps you're right. Doesn't make sense to keep him if you're not going to utilize him, though, unless they're convinced that Vick's ultimately going to hurt himself again. Cause I don't think they've got the guts to yank him, no matter how poorly he plays.

[cjg11582]

And its not as if Vick isn't injury prone. Every quarterback with the penchant to scramble is. NFL defenses simply hit too hard nowadays.

[Zeus104]

The reason Matt Schaub was behind Phillip Rivers in the draft was simply that not team knew how to spell his last name for the jersey, let alone pronounce it over the PA system..

No, actually, what happened was in Schaub's senior year, he was being touted as a heisman finalist. 3 games into the season he dislocated his shoulder on a freak landing when being sacked. he was out for the next 4 or 5 games with nerve damage in his throwing shoulder. He came back at the end of the season but had lost all chance of winning the Heisman or securing a top draft spot.

He went down in UVa's record books as the most accurate passer in the school's history and was one of the top QB's in ACC history. The offense in Atlanta is the exact same offense that Schaub ran at UVa.

Michael Vick is the second best QB on the Atlanta Falcons. Schaub should be starting on that team. If he were to start, the Falcons would be a lock for the playoffs every season.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Zeus104

The reason Matt Schaub was behind Phillip Rivers in the draft was simply that not team knew how to spell his last name for the jersey, let alone pronounce it over the PA system..

No, actually, what happened was in Schaub's senior year, he was being touted as a heisman finalist. 3 games into the season he dislocated his shoulder on a freak landing when being sacked. he was out for the next 4 or 5 games with nerve damage in his throwing shoulder. He came back at the end of the season but had lost all chance of winning the Heisman or securing a top draft spot.

He went down in UVa's record books as the most accurate passer in the school's history and was one of the top QB's in ACC history. The offense in Atlanta is the exact same offense that Schaub ran at UVa.

Michael Vick is the second best QB on the Atlanta Falcons. Schaub should be starting on that team. If he were to start, the Falcons would be a lock for the playoffs every season.

Zeus, buddy, I can appreciate the enthusiasm, but that is easy to say when the guy has barely gotten a few games under his belt.

I am not a Vick fan, but its hard to argue with the raw talent he has...I would rather them develop that talent then take a shot at Schaub...the NFL is littered with corpses of guys who were the most accurate passer in their school.

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Zeus104

Michael Vick is the second best QB on the Atlanta Falcons. Schaub should be starting on that team. If he were to start, the Falcons would be a lock for the playoffs every season.

Welcome to GoTeamsGo, Zeus. You and I are going to get along great, because I agree with you 100% about Schaub. From what I've seen of him in college, preseason and regular season play, I definitely think he's a better fit for that Atlanta Falcons offense. Vick is inconsistant and injury prone. Yes, he's explosive, but he's also a horrible passer and makes poor decisions. Schaub is far better in those departments.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Welcome to GoTeamsGo, Zeus. You and I are going to get along great, because I agree with you 100% about Schaub. From what I've seen of him in college, preseason and regular season play, I definitely think he's a better fit for that Atlanta Falcons offense. Vick is inconsistant and injury prone. Yes, he's explosive, but he's also a horrible passer and makes poor decisions. Schaub is far better in those departments.

Man oh man, two guys on thhe Schaub happy band wagon...the man has backup written all over him...quality backup...but backup none-the-less...Schaub gets in and Atlanta can't run...Atlanta runs wild with Dunn and Duckett cause Vick creates...once they can't run, they will sit and pick on Schaub.

[Zeus104]

The west coast offense isn't about having a footloose QB like Vick. Their offense is made for tight ends (Heath Miller was Schaub's at UVa) and RB's (Duckett and Dunn). Schaub also has a heckuva arm too. Another thing to note is that with Schaub's size, he's deceptively agile. He did a few scrambles last year for over 20 yards. Schaub is better suited for Atlanta's offense and won't be a backup for long.

What they're trying to do with Vick is to change him into something he's not intended to be. Remember, Vick is a scrambler. That is not what a West Coast offense is for. don't change him into a pocket passer when that's not what he's made for. That'd just be wasting the talent he has.

Who knows, Vick's out right now with a hamstring injury, so let's see if Schaub can turn heads like he should.

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Man oh man, two guys on thhe Schaub happy band wagon...

Go back up and look at post #2, DK. I've been saying this stuff since April. And why wouldn't Atlanta be able to run? Last I heard, they still had a good o-line and a couple of good running backs. They would lose Vick's explosiveness and his ability to improvise, but their passing attack would blossom with a smarter QB under center. The move would definitely be a good one for them to make.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Go back up and look at post #2, DK. I've been saying this stuff since April. And why wouldn't Atlanta be able to run? Last I heard, they still had a good o-line and a couple of good running backs. They would lose Vick's explosiveness and his ability to improvise, but their passing attack would blossom with a smarter QB under center. The move would definitely be a good one for them to make.

Yep, I know you are on the band wagon since then...But Zeus just jumped on it...

The reason they run well with diminutive Warrick Dunn is that Vick opens up the field for them...without Vick, they will key on the smallish halfback in lieu of the Falcons having any good receivers...

And for all of Matt's college accuracy, he barely has a 50% completion rate in the pros...

Its easy to bash Vick...and maybe say he is not the smartest of QBs...but what QB with that kind of game breaking speed will sit in the pocket forever?

Landry had a hell of a time with Roger Staubach, who once was chased by the entire Colt defense for over 23 seconds on one play!...

Eventually, the Cowboys brought back the shotgun in 1975 to take advantage of Roger's ability....

Atlanta should build around Vick...Matt can go back up another team...

[Trashed]

Schaub is better than Vick because Vick is not a true NFL QB. Hes a running back who has a decent arm. If Vick couldnt run like he does and had to rely on his passing skills the Falcons would most likely have cut him by now or make Schaub the starter. In the games Schaub played he looked great and I heard the Bears were interested in him. That would have made the Bears a dangerous offensive threat I think.