[simple simon]

i think we need a full season of Goodell before we pass judgement on the NFL ..... i am very pleased with him so far, as short as he has been there

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by JRL

Seems to me the education and rules of conduct are being clearly stated - even super stars can't do as they please

I totally disagree... I think it's a policy of check the public opinion on an issue and then rule...

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

I totally disagree... I think it's a policy of check the public opinion on an issue and then rule...

maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me ...... and maybe i give ESPN and the general public too much credit

but i visit their website daily and most each day they have a different poll posted to vote in ........ sometimes it's something like 'how many games should this guy get suspended' ....... and i often wonder if the leagues check these polls out

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by simple simon

maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me ...... and maybe i give ESPN and the general public too much credit

but i visit their website daily and most each day they have a different poll posted to vote in ........ sometimes it's something like 'how many games should this guy get suspended' ....... and i often wonder if the leagues check these polls out

I like it!...I like it when you go all Area 51 on us!...keep them coming...maybe we can get you a new thread...Simon's own Area 51 where you debunk sporting Urban myths and conspiracy theories...

The commish checks ESPN!...that would explain a lot... I can go to bed happy now...thanks my man...

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

... I can go to bed happy now...thanks my man...

i do what i can

[vincesanity82]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Perhaps education and better rules of conduct should be the order of the day...but hey, a scalp or two to feed the media is easier...right?...

why you backing a dog abuser gdk? Dont tell me theres no evidence because there is tons that link vick to the crimes. The media is all over him because he has been popular since coming into the NFL and oh yea he abused several dogs for profit..

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by vincesanity82

why you backing a dog abuser gdk? Dont tell me theres no evidence because there is tons that link vick to the crimes. The media is all over him because he has been popular since coming into the NFL and oh yea he abused several dogs for profit..

I ain't backing him or anyone else...but I don't like the way it's going down either...you got a guy with a self confession of over 2,000 dog fights (a real model witness let me tell ya) as your key witness and the a department and media all after Vick ( lets see the list of everyone else involved)...you got a joker (uhm I mean Congressman) from California (Doesn't sound like Virginia or Georgia to me) jumping in with his two cents worth on the NFL etc...

It's a freakin witch hunt...

I perfer my justice a bit more even handed and by the book that's all...and I perfer my investigations to be done outside the skewed view of the freakin media...

If he is guilty fine...let due process take its course...but hell, he has been convicted already by the media...and on the say so of a freakin worse criminal...doesn't resembly the US of A that I am fond of...call me an Idealist...

[simple simon]

ok i back up GDK here 100% he has said all along if Vick is found guilty he should receive full penalty

he just feels a little shafted that the guy with 2000 dog fights under his belt appears to be walking the streets ......... and i dont blame him one bit for being upset by that

[vincesanity82]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

I ain't backing him or anyone else...but I don't like the way it's going down either...you got a guy with a self confession of over 2,000 dog fights (a real model witness let me tell ya) as your key witness and the a department and media all after Vick ( lets see the list of everyone else involved)...you got a joker (uhm I mean Congressman) from California (Doesn't sound like Virginia or Georgia to me) jumping in with his two cents worth on the NFL etc...

It's a freakin witch hunt...

I perfer my justice a bit more even handed and by the book that's all...and I perfer my investigations to be done outside the skewed view of the freakin media...

If he is guilty fine...let due process take its course...but hell, he has been convicted already by the media...and on the say so of a freakin worse criminal...doesn't resembly the US of A that I am fond of...call me an Idealist...

thats the point, he is a huge star, theres no way they can keep the media away, even trying to keep the investigation under wraps the media finds ways to get information, thats something you have to accept when you get celebrity status, everything you do however minute is all over the news. True vick hasnt been convicted of anything yet but I never heard anyone give pacman sympathy when the media tore him up..oh and by the way pacman still hasnt been convicted, yet hes been suspended for a year. How about lets be fair about this. Vick deserves the same suspension..Im not worried about if hes convicted or not, if he is he will spend jail time..

[Daddy_Duck]

Joey Harrington will be starting by week 6, at least i hope.

[FALCONSKUTIEE]

Dang you folks here are crazy! where is the evidence, no video tapes, that witness (please here say) . dogs healthy, no evidence of dogs fights. i hope vick gets to sue eveyone when he is found not gulity!

I want to know how many people just didnt like vick from the jump, and why? its seems to me that it just built inside people now they just want him gone, seems to me yes ill say it again and again he is a black man , with money in the public eye! that is what it boils down to people!

put him in jail, that just sounds crazy! what about these folks killing and raping people! give me a break people! lets spend our taxes dollar on something more important.

[FALCONSKUTIEE]

Originally Posted by Daddy_Duck

Joey Harrington will be starting by week 6, at least i hope.

please that guy sucks ! we need to start dj instead of him sittin on the bench! GOOOOOOOOO Falcons and vick! SMILE

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by FALCONSKUTIEE

seems to me yes ill say it again and again he is a black man , with money in the public eye! that is what it boils down to people!

i really wish you would check that racism stuff here ........ no one here even gave that a thought

[FALCONSKUTIEE]

Originally Posted by simple simon

i really wish you would check that racism stuff here ........ no one here even gave that a thought

thats the only and 1st thing you commented on!

[vincesanity82]

Originally Posted by FALCONSKUTIEE

Dang you folks here are crazy! where is the evidence, no video tapes, that witness (please here say) . dogs healthy, no evidence of dogs fights. i hope vick gets to sue eveyone when he is found not gulity!

I want to know how many people just didnt like vick from the jump, and why? its seems to me that it just built inside people now they just want him gone, seems to me yes ill say it again and again he is a black man , with money in the public eye! that is what it boils down to people!

put him in jail, that just sounds crazy! what about these folks killing and raping people! give me a break people! lets spend our taxes dollar on something more important.

Ive liked vick until this incident, the evidence is clear cut, did you not see the photos and interviews on espn? and what players are killing and raping people are you refering to? And putting someone in jail who deserves it is not crazy its the law. By the way my favorite qb is black hence my screen name, you can only use the racial card so much before it makes you look uneducated my friend..