[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Bette

He sold his property quick. How did he get away with that?

i dont know for sure ... but i have to believe the new owner will not be able to do anything until the authorities are done with the investigation ... Vick isnt getting rid of it that easy

Also, it was previously mentioned about others in the Nfl involved. This could turn out to be a very bad thing. I hope none of my favorite players' names pops up here.

i hadnt heard other are involved ... but i agree anyone found to be needs swift harsh punishment .... i dont care if its Tom Brady

[azrael492]

I have seen a pit bull fight. My dad used to have 2 of them. It sounds stupid to say it, but the vet said it was probably schizophrenic. The window was rolled halfway down in the car. It squeezed through while the car was running and attacked another dog that was tied up. It was the most disgusting thing I have seen in my life, and we put the dog down. |If he is involved in this at all, I hope they put him in the pit with them.

[vincesanity82]

-Update-

A showdown is looming in Surry County, Virginia, where investigators believe that they have strong evidence to support the notion that Falcons quarterback Mike Vick has been actively involved in dog fighting, but prosecutor Gerald Poindexter is refusing to review the evidence.

According to WVEC-TV, investigators are frustrated by Poindexter's lack of action.

WVEC also cites two law enforcement sources in reporting that Vick "not only knew about the dog fighting at a house he owned, but that he was an active participant at the fights that allegedly took place behind the house."

Investigators who searched the Vick property in Virginia last month also found, per WVEC, documents that "[a]bsolutely link Vick to the dog-fighting operation."



So why is Poindexter dragging his feet? In a bizarre exchange with Patrick Terpstra of WVEC, Poindexter refused to be interviewed on camera but spoke into the WVEC microphones. The sense after listening to the segment is that Poindexter has every intention of giving Vick a pass, and it's hard not to suspect that Poindexter is being motivated by something other than the facts and the law.

Poindexter has held the position of Commonwealth Attorney in Surry County since 1972. He was re-elected in 2003 without opposition, and his term is up as of December 31, 2007. We presume that he is running again, but it's unclear whether he will face an opponent.

Seems like something fishy is going on here..

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[simple simon]

Originally Posted by vincesanity82

Seems like something fishy is going on here..

i agree, but i see no way he is going to get away with this

PETA and the Humane Society have way too many members to let this die quietly

[JRL]

Originally Posted by simple simon

i agree, but i see no way he is going to get away with this

PETA and the Humane Society have way too many members to let this die quietly
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I’m getting vibes that this incident will go the same way the water bottle did. I’m not paranoid nor do I subscribe to a conspiracy theory but this may be an animal of a different color. If the practice, dog fighting, is prevalent in that part of the country and involves multiple NFL players (or other celebrities) this issue could soon run its course without indictments.

I hope I’m wrong but huge sums of money and some very powerful people are in jeopardy.

[simple simon]

The lead investigator in the case of dog-fighting accusations against Atlanta quarterback Michael Vick said Monday that she believes there is substantial evidence to eventually tie Vick directly to the felony crime.

That evidence could eventually include videotapes of Vick at matches. Kathy Strouse, the Animal Control coordinator for the City of Chesapeake in Virginia, said Monday that she has received a tip from what is described as a "reliable source" that tapes of Vick exist that would tie him directly to the burgeoning scandal and a possible felony charge.


"We don't know where (the tapes) are or if they do indeed exist, but I have been told that they are out there," said Strouse, who is also affiliated with two other organizations involved in the welfare of animals. "Without knowing where they are, there's no possibility of getting a search warrant at this point."


Strouse said she has also talked with individuals who can "put Vick on that property" during matches. However, those individuals have been reluctant to testify at this point, leaving much of the evidence against Vick that has become public at this point as circumstantial.

Videotapes sought of Vick watching dog fights - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

this just gets better and better

if these tapes exist Vick is screwed for sure

[Lefty Noob]

I've been hearing 1-2 games for Vick, tops. That would be a downright shame.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

I've been hearing 1-2 games for Vick, tops. That would be a downright shame.

if video evidence comes out of him participating in dog fighting then he will have to get a year minimum i would think or the special interest groups will never stop protesting the NFL offices

[vincesanity82]

Animal control officer confident Vick was at fights


Michael Vick has said that he was rarely at the Virginia house he owned where officials have found evidence of dog fighting and that he never took part in the practice. Investigators don't agree.

Kathy Strouse, the animal control coordinator for the City of Chesapeake in Virginia which is investigating the case at the Smithfield home, told Yahoo.com on Tuesday she has spoken with individuals who can "put Vick on that property" during matches.

Saying she is "very confident" that Vick will be tied directly to the dog fighting on the property, Strouse has challenged Surry County Commonwealth attorney Gerald Poindexter to bring charges.
"He [Poindexter] was at the home and saw the equipment that we seized," Strouse said. "When we were there, he said he had enough right there to issue an indictment. He didn't say who he would indict, but he said he had enough.
"Now, with what he has said, it makes you think, 'What in the world is going on in Surry County?' This certainly doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy about the Surry County attorney."
Strouse indicated that the individuals who place the Falcons quarterback at the scene have been reluctant to testify. An investigator told WVEC-TV, the ABC affiliate in Norfolk, Va., that a meeting has been requested with Poindexter to review evidence.
"They have not requested a meeting with me. That is a lie," Poindexter then told the television station.
He has also declined to reveal the status of the investigation or whether charges are likely.
"I don't try cases in the press," Poindexter told the station. "Lawyers who do that are despicable."
Police conducting a drug investigation at the end of April raided the Vick-owned house and reported finding dozens of dogs, some injured and emaciated. Investigators also discovered items associated with dog fighting, including veterinary supplies, blood-soaked carpeting, treadmills used for training and tools used to pry apart a dog's jaws.
When the story broke, Vick told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, "I'm never at the house. I left the house with my family members and my cousin. They just haven't been doing the right thing."
Since that time, a Web site was discovered that showed Vick's name was being used to promote dog breeding that specialized in rare pit bull terriers and "the highly intelligent and powerful Presa Canario."
Vick has reportedly entered a contract to sell the house, but reports regarding his involvement in the operation keep surfacing.
Sports Illustrated reported on its Web site on Thursday that two friends of Vick said the QB knew about the dog fighting operation at the home. WAVY-TV in Norfolk reported that clerks at a store near the property said Vick bought items such as syringes typically used in dog fighting.
The Humane Society has told the NFL that past and present players say that the league has a serious problem with animal abuse.
Vick has now been advised by his attorney to stop talking publicly about the case.
"It is still under investigation, and once it is over, we will talk about it. As of right now, I cannot talk about the situation," Vick said.
Surry County, meanwhile, is being taxed by the investigation. WVEC reported on Tuesday that boarding the animals confiscated from Vick's property is costing the county $25,000.


I say that vick will still play football, just for a prison team..cause thats his next stop..

ESPN.com: Investigator: Witnesses can put Vick at dog fights

[JRL]

Poindexter seems to be waitng for the best offer

[simple simon]

In regard to Vick, at this point he is being viewed as nothing more than the property owner unless evidence reveals that he could be involved in illegal activity, Poindexter said.


Poindexter would not say if he expected charges to be brought. Without reviewing the evidence, Poindexter declined to say if Vick was a focus of the investigation.


"I'm not going to be a party to a witch hunt," Poindexter said. "This [process] will not be driven by people who hate Michael Vick, love Michael Vick or people who love animals."

Prosecutor, Vick investigators to meet | ajc.com

im really starting to not have much faith in this Poindexter guy

[Bette]

There's too many words like "supposedly" "allegedly." tapes that cant be proven to exist. Lots of suppositions but not too many facts yet. Everything points to his guilt but we know that's not enough. And remember, they started out by looking for drugs.
I hope justice is served.

[simple simon]

The lead investigator in the dog-fighting investigation at a home that was owned by Michael Vick says there may be evidence that can directly tie him to fights at the property.

Kathy Strouse, Animal Control coordinator for the City of Chesapeake, says there may be a videotape showing Vick at dogfights and that she has talked with individuals who can "put Vick on the property" during matches in an interview with Yahoo.com.

Strouse also said she is "very confident" authorities will link Vick directly to the dog fighting and called out the prosecutor for not being more aggressive. "He was at the home and saw the equipment that we seized. When we were there, he said he had enough right there to issue an indictment."

FOX Sports - NFL - Investigator: Witnesses tie Vick to dog fights

if these tapes exist Vick will be nailed to the wall ..... he may be out of the NFL for good

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by simple simon

im really starting to not have much faith in this Poindexter guy

Can you blame the guy for exercising caution and wanting to avoid a mess like the Duke Lacrosse case turned out to be?

[FALCONSKUTIEE]

wow you people really dont like vick? is it b/c he is black and has money? well i think so!